Dan references
jochen stremmel
jstremmel at gmail.com
Sat Oct 5 08:40:37 CDT 2013
>In this example, P does not simply tack on a bunch of words to the song titles.<
Why not say so up front? Because there obviously are no "apparent
errors", and he doesn't get any titles wrong.
And, please, who are "we", to "appreciate his research, his humor, his
huge talent." Do you aspire to Kakutani's job? I, for my part, am
perfectly happy to sit with him at the campfire and let him tell his
story.
2013/10/5 Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com>:
> their website, among many other hilarious writings, contains a ... When
> they were finally voted in, they immediately opened a fake auction for the
> commemorative trophies awarded by a "self-styled 'official' musical honorary
> organization". Items offered in exchange ranged from cash offers to
> "somebody's gold teeth" and something simply described as "biological
> matter".
>
> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/SteelyDan?from=Main.SteelyDan
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks you.
>>
>> It is important to look into these apparent erros.
>> P is certainly not infallible.
>> And,as you suggest here, Richard, when we give him the benefit of poetic
>> licence, we appreciate his research, his humor, his huge talent.
>>
>> I can see so many of scenes read at the 92 Street Y to a typical crowd of
>> silver hairs who would be both wild with joy, rolling in the aisles and
>> groaning, then chatting the deeper meanings up hours, and days later.
>>
>>
>> In this example, P does not simply tack on a bunch of words to the song
>> titles. So, what might he be up to here? The popular song title, what
>> people call the songs? The refrain, the first line, the first few notes,
>> whatever, jar the memory.
>>
>> And the cryptic song title, not to mention the obscure and cryptic puns of
>> Steely Dan are ironed out, flatironed here, but uner the street, well, kinda
>> like P, where the cult readers and listeners are in on it, there is
>> meanings...like Katie Lied's first song is Black Friday and on the cover of
>> The Royal Scam...etc...
>>
>> Looking at how he's funning and punning away, on names and title, on
>> celebs, and how people use popular song lyrics in conversation, popular
>> phrases from TV, shop-talk from the Websters, Opera lingo from the Opera
>> fans....the list goes on, I think it is useful to point out the "mistakes",
>> and then dig into them to find the beauty in the errors.
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Rich Clavey <antizoyd at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing odd that jumped out at me about BE is, so far I noticed two
>>> references to Steely Dan songs: Doctor Wu, and The Fez, and in both cases
>>> Pynchon got the titles wrong by adding a bunch of words to them. "Are you
>>> with me Doctor Wu" and "Aint never gonna do it without the Fez on".
>>> Rich
>>>
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