Dan references

Lemuel Underwing luunderwing at gmail.com
Sat Oct 5 18:13:17 CDT 2013


He did the Simpsons thing, apparently, because Jackson loved the show. Not
saying he isn't aware of Pop Culture, but, for me, that bit about it being
a *means of oppression *stands out.


On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robin Landseadel <
robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:

> And then there's all that anecdotal stuff flying around the interwebs how
> Pynchon's crazy for Gilligan's Island and the Simpsons. Someone with that
> much attention directed towards popcult must at least have a little
> affection for the stuff.
>
> On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>
>  But is the ten year anachronism owed to Pynchon's lack of sufficient
>> interest? I don't think this is true. In fact, as the novels that followed
>> GR prove, anachrosnism are carefully and deliberately used by the author.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> P.'s apparent errors when it comes to pop culture references have been
>> remarked on often on this List, but my favorite quote concerning them
>> belongs to Edward Mendelson from his essay on GR:
>> "Gravity's Rainbow has on occasion been misunderstood as an endorsement
>> of popular culture in preference to "high" culture, but Pynchon is equally
>> insistent on the potential dangers that lie in absorption at either
>> extreme. The popular modes that Pynchon assimilates into his encyclopedia
>> of styles are never modes of liberation from the systems of oppression but
>> are instead a means of oppression and extinguishing. In his references to
>> popular forms, Pynchon incidentally commits historical errors of a kind
>> absent from his allusions to Rossini or Rilke: he is not, for example,
>> sufficiently interested in a film like The Return of Jack Slade to notice
>> that its inclusion in Gravity's Rainbow is a ten-year anachronism. "
>>
>
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