Dan references

[Lemuel Underwing]

And, considering how many drugs he was supposedly taking at the time of
GR's writing I wouldn't be surprised if that Return of Jack Slade
anachronism *was *a total lapse of memory.
The timeline is unimportant, the means of oppression are the same?


On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>wrote:

> He did the Simpsons thing, apparently, because Jackson loved the show. Not
> saying he isn't aware of Pop Culture, but, for me, that bit about it being
> a *means of oppression *stands out.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robin Landseadel <
> robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> And then there's all that anecdotal stuff flying around the interwebs how
>> Pynchon's crazy for Gilligan's Island and the Simpsons. Someone with that
>> much attention directed towards popcult must at least have a little
>> affection for the stuff.
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>>
>>  But is the ten year anachronism owed to Pynchon's lack of sufficient
>>> interest? I don't think this is true. In fact, as the novels that followed
>>> GR prove, anachrosnism are carefully and deliberately used by the author.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> P.'s apparent errors when it comes to pop culture references have been
>>> remarked on often on this List, but my favorite quote concerning them
>>> belongs to Edward Mendelson from his essay on GR:
>>> "Gravity's Rainbow has on occasion been misunderstood as an endorsement
>>> of popular culture in preference to "high" culture, but Pynchon is equally
>>> insistent on the potential dangers that lie in absorption at either
>>> extreme. The popular modes that Pynchon assimilates into his encyclopedia
>>> of styles are never modes of liberation from the systems of oppression but
>>> are instead a means of oppression and extinguishing. In his references to
>>> popular forms, Pynchon incidentally commits historical errors of a kind
>>> absent from his allusions to Rossini or Rilke: he is not, for example,
>>> sufficiently interested in a film like The Return of Jack Slade to notice
>>> that its inclusion in Gravity's Rainbow is a ten-year anachronism. "
>>>
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