I've gotcher Gabriel Ice right here:

[Fiona Shnapple]

Robin,

You said that we were mis-reading by reading irony or satire into the
author's political statements. Do you seriously think that left content of
the kind P addresses in his writings is aligned with Mother Jones magazine.
Journalists?

We've narrowly escaped a Great Depression, and where is the Left? In court,
not fighting for the poor, the working poor, but one another. Millions in
the balance.

No, I'm sorry, the Left sold us out. Look to Wisconsin. Look at how the
Left sold out those brave Chicago teachers. How the sell out the rank and
file in nyc. The Left content?

In that intro to 1985 P describes Orwell as left of the left. The left in
the us, and in nyc, is right of center.

The characters carry the weight. Call them toons, it doesn't matter. Why do
Ernie's daughters marry the men they marry? Why do they turn on their
parents, on the poor people, the old folks living in the rent controlled
apartments.

The dude on the single sprocket bike, delivering, hated by the mayor, he
may be a toon, but he carries a heavy theme.






On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Robin Landseadel wrote:

> Well then excuse me, of course the author shades all his characters with
> various degrees of pun potential and whatnot, al la Jay Ward cartoon
> studios.
>
> I guess I'm pointing to Left Content as opposed to Left Cartoons. Pynchon
> is nothing if not a master of cartoons. I mean seriously—Al-Mar_Fuad, pg.
> 757, Against the Day?
>
> I have hardly cracked DeLeuze 'n' Guattari, "Vineland" has a splendid and
> very telling citation—[Jesus Fucking Christ, you're making me look up this
> shit again]—From an online resource near you!
> " . . . Deleuze and Guattari are named in Vineland at the wedding of
> Mafioso Ralph Wayvone's daughter as authors of The Italian Wedding Fake
> Book, to which Billy Barf and Vomitones (disguised as Gino Baglione and the
> Paisans) resort when it becomes clear that they do not know any appropriate
> songs for an Italian wedding. They are only mentioned once, without
> elaboration, and it may be only another Pynchonesque throwaway, but if we
> follow the logic from Sister Rochelle's "Let her be" to Heidegger, the
> Beatles, and the Rolling Stones, the reference to Deleuze and Guattari
> extends the Vineland's exploration of how to contend with the "Cosmic
> Fascist" which has contaminated sex, politics, and representation.
>
>
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