BEER Group Read. "introduced as 'friends'"

[Fiona Shnapple]

http://artillerymag.com/featured-review-art-spiegelman/


On Monday, October 14, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

> Survivor's Guilt. Why did I survive? Maybe that Pear Tree is the
> answer. Who knows?
>
> Let it Bleed/Be
>
> Spiegelman displays his sense of guilt in many ways. He suffers
> anguish over his dead brother, Richieu, who perished in the Holocaust,
> and whom he feels he can never live up to.[103] The eighth chapter,
> made after the publication and unexpected success of the first volume,
> opens with a guilt-ridden Spiegelman (now in human form, with a
> strapped-on mouse mask) atop a pile of corpses—the corpses of the six
> million Jews upon whom Maus's success was built.[104] He is told by
> his psychiatrist that his father feels guilt for having survived and
> for outliving his first son,[105] and that some of Art's guilt may
> spring from painting his father in such an unflattering way.[106] As
> he had not lived in the camps himself, he finds it difficult to
> understand or visualize this "separate universe", and feels inadequate
> in portraying it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Freud? Why might UWS residents send their kids to a Freudian School.
> > To have a friendly talking cure on the couch? Don't they go to the
> > Junior Gym, the Mommy and Me Yoga, the Pee-Wee Pilates, the Y, the
> > Wonderful Witch, the Gurrooo jiving with that cosmic debris?
> >
> > So, maybe the kids are all right.  Or could be,  if the neurotic
> > parents let them develop before they begin therapy and cures.
> >
> > I mean, how much consciousness to unconsciousness clogging can there
> > be? They're kids!
> >
> > And, maybe the parents, typical of Manhattan parents, and come to
> > think of it, typical of Yupper Parents everywhere, but oh soooo soooo
> > UWS, where anxiety about getting into a school that fast tracks the
> > kid to a successful career as a dentist, are sending their kids to a
> > Freudian School to prevent a clog that isn't there yet, at least not
> > in the kids, and to discover the clog in a stage of their own
> > development.
> >
> > These clogs, as we see here, are caused by the WORK the parents do.
> >
> > The grandparents, and greater parents, many of the victims, have
> > caused the parents to be stuck at the clog, for the violence, be it
> > the Holocaust. the Wars, the Blacklisting, so on, is inextricably
> > connected to the repression, is part of the same sewer system that
> > backs up as life in the city engenders more and more insidious
> > violence born of the repression.
> >
> > There's a lot of guilt and anxiety on this UWS.
> >
> > Another reason to like Maxine in this opening scene, she has to go to
> WORK.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> I used to ask some of my NYC friends who went to the psych doctors
> every week,
> >> what they provided that a friend who listened did not?
> >>
> >> Pynchon has Dr. Kugelblitz call his patients his 'friends'.
> >>
> >> P showing the debasement of the meaning of friend?
> >> -
> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>
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