BEER Group Read. "introduced as 'friends'"
Fiona Shnapple
fionashnapple at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 07:16:14 CDT 2013
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/09/september-11th-covers-mouly-spiegelman.html#slide_ss_0=1
On Monday, October 14, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
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> http://artillerymag.com/featured-review-art-spiegelman/
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> On Monday, October 14, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
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>> Survivor's Guilt. Why did I survive? Maybe that Pear Tree is the
>> answer. Who knows?
>>
>> Let it Bleed/Be
>>
>> Spiegelman displays his sense of guilt in many ways. He suffers
>> anguish over his dead brother, Richieu, who perished in the Holocaust,
>> and whom he feels he can never live up to.[103] The eighth chapter,
>> made after the publication and unexpected success of the first volume,
>> opens with a guilt-ridden Spiegelman (now in human form, with a
>> strapped-on mouse mask) atop a pile of corpses—the corpses of the six
>> million Jews upon whom Maus's success was built.[104] He is told by
>> his psychiatrist that his father feels guilt for having survived and
>> for outliving his first son,[105] and that some of Art's guilt may
>> spring from painting his father in such an unflattering way.[106] As
>> he had not lived in the camps himself, he finds it difficult to
>> understand or visualize this "separate universe", and feels inadequate
>> in portraying it.
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus
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>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Freud? Why might UWS residents send their kids to a Freudian School.
>> > To have a friendly talking cure on the couch? Don't they go to the
>> > Junior Gym, the Mommy and Me Yoga, the Pee-Wee Pilates, the Y, the
>> > Wonderful Witch, the Gurrooo jiving with that cosmic debris?
>> >
>> > So, maybe the kids are all right. Or could be, if the neurotic
>> > parents let them develop before they begin therapy and cures.
>> >
>> > I mean, how much consciousness to unconsciousness clogging can there
>> > be? They're kids!
>> >
>> > And, maybe the parents, typical of Manhattan parents, and come to
>> > think of it, typical of Yupper Parents everywhere, but oh soooo soooo
>> > UWS, where anxiety about getting into a school that fast tracks the
>> > kid to a successful career as a dentist, are sending their kids to a
>> > Freudian School to prevent a clog that isn't there yet, at least not
>> > in the kids, and to discover the clog in a stage of their own
>> > development.
>> >
>> > These clogs, as we see here, are caused by the WORK the parents do.
>> >
>> > The grandparents, and greater parents, many of the victims, have
>> > caused the parents to be stuck at the clog, for the violence, be it
>> > the Holocaust. the Wars, the Blacklisting, so on, is inextricably
>> > connected to the repression, is part of the same sewer system that
>> > backs up as life in the city engenders more and more insidious
>> > violence born of the repression.
>> >
>> > There's a lot of guilt and anxiety on this UWS.
>> >
>> > Another reason to like Maxine in this opening scene, she has to go to
>> WORK.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I used to ask some of my NYC friends who went to the psych doctors
>> every week,
>> >> what they provided that a friend who listened did not?
>> >>
>> >> Pynchon has Dr. Kugelblitz call his patients his 'friends'.
>> >>
>> >> P showing the debasement of the meaning of friend?
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