BE 54-55: The Post & UWS Co-Op Mkt. Etc.

Robin Landseadel robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Tue Oct 29 10:01:18 CDT 2013


We all assumed you were Alice anyway.

I think I'll need a flow chart of right and left from you to clear up  
all these Humpty-Dumpty-isms.

I suppose removing the "Young" from "Young Urban Professionals" would  
clear things up. I suspect that the UWS is rather like Berkeley in  
having so much of its "professional" money coming from old-left,  
unionized bureaucracies. There was an uptick in the local economy as  
Dot.Com winners from across the bridge or down around Cupertino came  
to campus southside in the 80's & 90's, drawn like moths to Cody's and  
Amoeba, not to mention all the bad pizza and force ten tirades from  
the local streetfreeks. UC Berkeley Money, Livermore Labs money, Bayer  
Labs money, Dot.Com money is/was the financial "juice" that kept  
Berkeley's "Telegraph Avenue" community alive. Tthat is  until the  
Interwebs came along. Now Telegraph  south of Bancroft is dead, dead,  
dead. Food not Bombs still serves free lunch, six times weekly at  
People's Park. The panhandler community has moved on to greener acres.

On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

>> Sorry, I don't think "UWS, Leftist". i think "UPS Yuppie", 'cause  
>> if you can
>> afford to live in the UWS, you are a Yuppie.
>
> Not true. That's kind of  ridiculous, and I don't know why some of the
> NYers here have confused you and other readers who don't live here.
> There are lots of people living on the UWS, most are older folk, close
> to P's age, in apartments they have been renting for a long time who
> pay 800 or 1200 a month and can not afford to pay more. There are
> still stabilized apartments on the UWS, and , while stabilized often
> means lower quality, this is not always the case on the UWS. Now, I
> may buy a sink or a light fixture, have the building install it for
> me...so on, but the idea that everyone in the neighborhood is rich is
> false. Sure, it changed, you get into the building and meet yuppies,
> and there is some tension as people may pay much higher rents for
> apartments that are not as nice as a stabilized at 900...and, of
> course, there are assessments and old folk, on fixed incomes, and
> poorer folk can be knocked about by building improvements that yuppies
> demand, they get in, politically and push older and poorer people out.
> Sure, it's complicated but not everyone, believe me or go ask Alice it
> takes one to know one,  is a rich yuppie or rich or a yuppie.
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