Not P: The Couselor

[Mike Weaver]

Re Ross MacDonald - there have been some recent reprints. Last year 
Penguin Modern Classics published half a dozen of the best. Mysterious 
Press has published a couple of his pre Lew Archer books.
Talking of great crime writers have you come across Peter Temple. 
Australian.  Truly great writer - says so much with so few words. Broken 
Shore and Truth his latest and best.

On 31/10/2013 21:46, malignd at aol.com wrote:
> I can still read some of DeLillo; actually only Great Jones Street.
>
> Ross MacDonald -- I'm surprised you can find his stuff.  I rarely see 
> him in bookstores.  I bought up every novel of his I could find back 
> in the eighties and have most of them in slowly rotting trade 
> paperback.  Maybe Amazon has stepped in.  Anyway, he's the best 
> plotter I've ever read.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> To: Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> Cc: Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com>; pynchon-l 
> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:18 am
> Subject: Re: Not P: The Couselor
>
> i've been going back to re-read DeLillo. I liked Point Omega this time 
> around but couldnt finish Underworld, a novel I thought the shit for a 
> long time. in somr weird way, when I read DD as a young man, he was 
> showing me who I was, but now that I sorta know who I am, it seems 
> besides the point to get all giddy about him again (how could it?).
> I guess I liked Cormac when he popped out real novels, not these 
> experiments. anyway, now I'm onto Ross Macdonald, a man who proves you 
> can really be profound without being profound if you know what I mean 
> ("Hollywood started as a meaningless dream, invented for money.But its 
> colors ran, out through the holes in people's heads, spread across the 
> landscape and solidified. north and south along, the coast, east 
> across the desert, across the continent. now we're stuck with the 
> dream without a meaning, it had become a nightmare we lived in." i 
> fear Cormac or even DD couldnt help add alot of christmas tinsel to 
> the same idea and not add much to the sentiment.
> Oh, The Road--like Mr. Malick, dont get me started. movies you want to 
> root for a devil to show up somewheres and start throwing shit ;)
> p.s. the only guy from the old guard who hasn't disappointed me is 
> robert coover. the excerpts i've read from the brunist day of wrath 
> leaves me pissed that I have to wait till March to read the damn thing.
> rich
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mark Thibodeau 
> <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com <mailto:jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I think The Road is a lot better than you suggest, although it is
>     somewhat light on a pure wordsmithery level. On the other hand,
>     haven't we all been a little let down by Don Delillo's late-era work
>     for somewhat similar reasons? My favorite is Ratner's Star, but I
>     thought Point Omega his best since Underworld. Maybe Cormac and
>     Delillo are experimenting with minimalism? And we're just not digging
>     it?
>
>     Mark T.
>
>     On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com
>     <mailto:richard.romeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > whatever did cormac go? a couple of weak screenplays, one
>     disguised as a
>     > novel, which to be honest, was way too heavy on the ponderous
>     flood of my
>     > son is the messiah, again and again. at least the cannibals were
>     > interesting. imagine being a member of that group? dare I hope
>     for another
>     > Suttree. thats the only reason Im sticking around. One's hopes
>     he's not
>     > leaving all those ideas in the canteen mess in Santa Fe with all
>     those
>     > scientists. I imagine those are interesting discussions. but could I
>     > understand any of it? Suttree had that mad women and Knoxville's
>     best bums
>     > and drunks (are there any better descriptions of alcoholics
>     living in cars
>     > and freezing to death?). Some bits in there match anything in
>     Absalom
>     > Absalom. wherever did Cormac go? has he too lost something since
>     mellowing
>     > out with a family? who knows
>     >
>     > rich
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Allan Balliett
>     <allan.balliett at gmail.com <mailto:allan.balliett at gmail.com>>
>     > wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Saw this last night.
>     >>
>     >> Thought it sucked badly, mostly through the pseudo profound
>     dialogue but
>     >> also poor dramatic structure
>     >>
>     >> But maybe I just resent there was no POV for the algae eater
>     (catfish)
>     >> scene
>     >>
>     >> Allan in WV
>     >> from the farm
>     >>
>     >> Sent from my iPhone-
>     >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>     >
>     >
>
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