Not P: The Couselor

[rich]

oh i found them but hate to buy at retail price though I broke down a
bought a few. like good bourbon I'm savoring slowly. i do like offbeat
crime books like the small number of novels by Derek Raymond. though alot
darker mr archer does remind one of raymond's nameless detective. I read
Truth last year and enjoyed


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk> wrote:

>  Re Ross MacDonald - there have been some recent reprints. Last year
> Penguin Modern Classics published half a dozen of the best. Mysterious
> Press has published a couple of his pre Lew Archer books.
> Talking of great crime writers have you come across Peter Temple.
> Australian.  Truly great writer - says so much with so few words. Broken
> Shore and Truth his latest and best.
>
>
> On 31/10/2013 21:46, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>
> I can still read some of DeLillo; actually only Great Jones Street.
>
>  Ross MacDonald -- I'm surprised you can find his stuff.  I rarely see
> him in bookstores.  I bought up every novel of his I could find back in the
> eighties and have most of them in slowly rotting trade paperback.  Maybe
> Amazon has stepped in.  Anyway, he's the best plotter I've ever read.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> To: Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
> Cc: Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> <allan.balliett at gmail.com>;
> pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:18 am
> Subject: Re: Not P: The Couselor
>
>   i've been going back to re-read DeLillo. I liked Point Omega this time
> around but couldnt finish Underworld, a novel I thought the shit for a long
> time. in somr weird way, when I read DD as a young man, he was showing me
> who I was, but now that I sorta know who I am, it seems besides the point
> to get all giddy about him again (how could it?).
>  I guess I liked Cormac when he popped out real novels, not these
> experiments. anyway, now I'm onto Ross Macdonald, a man who proves you can
> really be profound without being profound if you know what I mean
> ("Hollywood started as a meaningless dream, invented for money.But its
> colors ran, out through the holes in people's heads, spread across the
> landscape and solidified. north and south along, the coast, east across the
> desert, across the continent. now we're stuck with the dream without a
> meaning, it had become a nightmare we lived in." i fear Cormac or even DD
> couldnt help add alot of christmas tinsel to the same idea and not add much
> to the sentiment.
>  Oh, The Road--like Mr. Malick, dont get me started. movies you want to
> root for a devil to show up somewheres and start throwing shit ;)
>  p.s. the only guy from the old guard who hasn't disappointed me is
> robert coover. the excerpts i've read from the brunist day of wrath leaves
> me pissed that I have to wait till March to read the damn thing.
>  rich
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I think The Road is a lot better than you suggest, although it is
>> somewhat light on a pure wordsmithery level. On the other hand,
>> haven't we all been a little let down by Don Delillo's late-era work
>> for somewhat similar reasons? My favorite is Ratner's Star, but I
>> thought Point Omega his best since Underworld. Maybe Cormac and
>> Delillo are experimenting with minimalism? And we're just not digging
>> it?
>>
>> Mark T.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > whatever did cormac go? a couple of weak screenplays, one disguised as a
>> > novel, which to be honest, was way too heavy on the ponderous flood of
>> my
>> > son is the messiah, again and again. at least the cannibals were
>> > interesting. imagine being a member of that group? dare I hope for
>> another
>> > Suttree. thats the only reason Im sticking around. One's hopes he's not
>> > leaving all those ideas in the canteen mess in Santa Fe with all those
>> > scientists. I imagine those are interesting discussions. but could I
>> > understand any of it? Suttree had that mad women and Knoxville's best
>> bums
>> > and drunks (are there any better descriptions of alcoholics living in
>> cars
>> > and freezing to death?). Some bits in there match anything in Absalom
>> > Absalom. wherever did Cormac go? has he too lost something since
>> mellowing
>> > out with a family? who knows
>> >
>> > rich
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Allan Balliett <
>> allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Saw this last night.
>> >>
>> >> Thought it sucked badly, mostly through the pseudo profound dialogue
>> but
>> >> also poor dramatic structure
>> >>
>> >> But maybe I just resent there was no POV for the algae eater (catfish)
>> >> scene
>> >>
>> >> Allan in WV
>> >> from the farm
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone-
>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>> >
>> >
>>
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