Not P: The Couselor

Thu Oct 31 21:36:29 CDT 2013

Michael Dibdin?

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about Jan van Willem de Wettering and Henning Mankel?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:04 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> oh i found them but hate to buy at retail price though I broke down a
>> bought a few. like good bourbon I'm savoring slowly. i do like offbeat
>> crime books like the small number of novels by Derek Raymond. though alot
>> darker mr archer does remind one of raymond's nameless detective. I read
>> Truth last year and enjoyed
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>>>  Re Ross MacDonald - there have been some recent reprints. Last year
>>> Penguin Modern Classics published half a dozen of the best. Mysterious
>>> Press has published a couple of his pre Lew Archer books.
>>> Talking of great crime writers have you come across Peter Temple.
>>> Australian.  Truly great writer - says so much with so few words. Broken
>>> Shore and Truth his latest and best.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2013 21:46, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I can still read some of DeLillo; actually only Great Jones Street.
>>>
>>>  Ross MacDonald -- I'm surprised you can find his stuff.  I rarely see
>>> him in bookstores.  I bought up every novel of his I could find back in the
>>> eighties and have most of them in slowly rotting trade paperback.  Maybe
>>> Amazon has stepped in.  Anyway, he's the best plotter I've ever read.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>> To: Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> <allan.balliett at gmail.com>;
>>> pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:18 am
>>> Subject: Re: Not P: The Couselor
>>>
>>>   i've been going back to re-read DeLillo. I liked Point Omega this
>>> time around but couldnt finish Underworld, a novel I thought the shit for a
>>> long time. in somr weird way, when I read DD as a young man, he was showing
>>> me who I was, but now that I sorta know who I am, it seems besides the
>>> point to get all giddy about him again (how could it?).
>>>  I guess I liked Cormac when he popped out real novels, not these
>>> experiments. anyway, now I'm onto Ross Macdonald, a man who proves you can
>>> really be profound without being profound if you know what I mean
>>> ("Hollywood started as a meaningless dream, invented for money.But its
>>> colors ran, out through the holes in people's heads, spread across the
>>> landscape and solidified. north and south along, the coast, east across the
>>> desert, across the continent. now we're stuck with the dream without a
>>> meaning, it had become a nightmare we lived in." i fear Cormac or even DD
>>> couldnt help add alot of christmas tinsel to the same idea and not add much
>>> to the sentiment.
>>>  Oh, The Road--like Mr. Malick, dont get me started. movies you want to
>>> root for a devil to show up somewheres and start throwing shit ;)
>>>  p.s. the only guy from the old guard who hasn't disappointed me is
>>> robert coover. the excerpts i've read from the brunist day of wrath leaves
>>> me pissed that I have to wait till March to read the damn thing.
>>>  rich
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think The Road is a lot better than you suggest, although it is
>>>> somewhat light on a pure wordsmithery level. On the other hand,
>>>> haven't we all been a little let down by Don Delillo's late-era work
>>>> for somewhat similar reasons? My favorite is Ratner's Star, but I
>>>> thought Point Omega his best since Underworld. Maybe Cormac and
>>>> Delillo are experimenting with minimalism? And we're just not digging
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Mark T.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > whatever did cormac go? a couple of weak screenplays, one disguised
>>>> as a
>>>> > novel, which to be honest, was way too heavy on the ponderous flood
>>>> of my
>>>> > son is the messiah, again and again. at least the cannibals were
>>>> > interesting. imagine being a member of that group? dare I hope for
>>>> another
>>>> > Suttree. thats the only reason Im sticking around. One's hopes he's
>>>> not
>>>> > leaving all those ideas in the canteen mess in Santa Fe with all those
>>>> > scientists. I imagine those are interesting discussions. but could I
>>>> > understand any of it? Suttree had that mad women and Knoxville's best
>>>> bums
>>>> > and drunks (are there any better descriptions of alcoholics living in
>>>> cars
>>>> > and freezing to death?). Some bits in there match anything in Absalom
>>>> > Absalom. wherever did Cormac go? has he too lost something since
>>>> mellowing
>>>> > out with a family? who knows
>>>> >
>>>> > rich
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Allan Balliett <
>>>> allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Saw this last night.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thought it sucked badly, mostly through the pseudo profound dialogue
>>>> but
>>>> >> also poor dramatic structure
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But maybe I just resent there was no POV for the algae eater
>>>> (catfish)
>>>> >> scene
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Allan in WV
>>>> >> from the farm
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone-
>>>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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