Not P: The Couselor

Keith Davis kbob42 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 21:32:13 CDT 2013


How about Jan van Willem de Wettering and Henning Mankel?


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:04 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> oh i found them but hate to buy at retail price though I broke down a
> bought a few. like good bourbon I'm savoring slowly. i do like offbeat
> crime books like the small number of novels by Derek Raymond. though alot
> darker mr archer does remind one of raymond's nameless detective. I read
> Truth last year and enjoyed
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>wrote:
>
>>  Re Ross MacDonald - there have been some recent reprints. Last year
>> Penguin Modern Classics published half a dozen of the best. Mysterious
>> Press has published a couple of his pre Lew Archer books.
>> Talking of great crime writers have you come across Peter Temple.
>> Australian.  Truly great writer - says so much with so few words. Broken
>> Shore and Truth his latest and best.
>>
>>
>> On 31/10/2013 21:46, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> I can still read some of DeLillo; actually only Great Jones Street.
>>
>>  Ross MacDonald -- I'm surprised you can find his stuff.  I rarely see
>> him in bookstores.  I bought up every novel of his I could find back in the
>> eighties and have most of them in slowly rotting trade paperback.  Maybe
>> Amazon has stepped in.  Anyway, he's the best plotter I've ever read.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> To: Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com> <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Allan Balliett <allan.balliett at gmail.com> <allan.balliett at gmail.com>;
>> pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org> <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:18 am
>> Subject: Re: Not P: The Couselor
>>
>>   i've been going back to re-read DeLillo. I liked Point Omega this time
>> around but couldnt finish Underworld, a novel I thought the shit for a long
>> time. in somr weird way, when I read DD as a young man, he was showing me
>> who I was, but now that I sorta know who I am, it seems besides the point
>> to get all giddy about him again (how could it?).
>>  I guess I liked Cormac when he popped out real novels, not these
>> experiments. anyway, now I'm onto Ross Macdonald, a man who proves you can
>> really be profound without being profound if you know what I mean
>> ("Hollywood started as a meaningless dream, invented for money.But its
>> colors ran, out through the holes in people's heads, spread across the
>> landscape and solidified. north and south along, the coast, east across the
>> desert, across the continent. now we're stuck with the dream without a
>> meaning, it had become a nightmare we lived in." i fear Cormac or even DD
>> couldnt help add alot of christmas tinsel to the same idea and not add much
>> to the sentiment.
>>  Oh, The Road--like Mr. Malick, dont get me started. movies you want to
>> root for a devil to show up somewheres and start throwing shit ;)
>>  p.s. the only guy from the old guard who hasn't disappointed me is
>> robert coover. the excerpts i've read from the brunist day of wrath leaves
>> me pissed that I have to wait till March to read the damn thing.
>>  rich
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think The Road is a lot better than you suggest, although it is
>>> somewhat light on a pure wordsmithery level. On the other hand,
>>> haven't we all been a little let down by Don Delillo's late-era work
>>> for somewhat similar reasons? My favorite is Ratner's Star, but I
>>> thought Point Omega his best since Underworld. Maybe Cormac and
>>> Delillo are experimenting with minimalism? And we're just not digging
>>> it?
>>>
>>> Mark T.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > whatever did cormac go? a couple of weak screenplays, one disguised as
>>> a
>>> > novel, which to be honest, was way too heavy on the ponderous flood of
>>> my
>>> > son is the messiah, again and again. at least the cannibals were
>>> > interesting. imagine being a member of that group? dare I hope for
>>> another
>>> > Suttree. thats the only reason Im sticking around. One's hopes he's not
>>> > leaving all those ideas in the canteen mess in Santa Fe with all those
>>> > scientists. I imagine those are interesting discussions. but could I
>>> > understand any of it? Suttree had that mad women and Knoxville's best
>>> bums
>>> > and drunks (are there any better descriptions of alcoholics living in
>>> cars
>>> > and freezing to death?). Some bits in there match anything in Absalom
>>> > Absalom. wherever did Cormac go? has he too lost something since
>>> mellowing
>>> > out with a family? who knows
>>> >
>>> > rich
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Allan Balliett <
>>> allan.balliett at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Saw this last night.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thought it sucked badly, mostly through the pseudo profound dialogue
>>> but
>>> >> also poor dramatic structure
>>> >>
>>> >> But maybe I just resent there was no POV for the algae eater (catfish)
>>> >> scene
>>> >>
>>> >> Allan in WV
>>> >> from the farm
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone-
>>> >> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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