Bleeding Edge - A Rolling Assessment
Markekohut
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Fri Sep 27 08:07:53 CDT 2013
Yeah, NYcity is a town where you make statements and social cohesion might be served best with cushioning it.
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I think it's ackshully like, you know, Valley Girl? (Not that it necessarily came from the SF Valley, though.) The question mark intonation at the end is called the "rising terminal" and is requesting a nod of positive response like - ".., you know?" ".., you understand?" "Capiche?" This intonation also appears frequently in Spanish speakers, "Verdad?"
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> It was around here in the 1980s - movies, people (usually women), etc.
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> Bekah
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> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
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>> Over here this way of talking has become endemic during recent years. A secondary Anglizismus (or: Amerikanismus) is what local linguists probably would call this. Actually it drives me mad ... it's like, you know, not sounding very, um, intelligent? They even dub old movies with this way of talking now, which sounds really strange and brings me to the the following questions: Since when are people in New York lifting the phrases in case of sentences which actually are simple statements or fragments thererof? (You can also hear this way of talking in 'Mad Men', so it is, assumed the serial's authenticity, not that new, is it?) Is this way of talking also common in other regions of the US? Other anglophone countries? And: Is there a gender dimension in it? This seems to be the case in 'Bleeding Edge', 'Mad Men' and the contemporary German reality: It's mostly women who talk that way. So if it's really around since at least 1960 my thesis would be that it originally was kinda compromise formula for women entering male job domains: Like still sounding sweet while making statements and, you know, claims?
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>> If you think that I sound like a sexist grammar fascist you're probably right.
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>> On 27.09.2013 00:01, alice wellintown wrote:
>>> The talk is zapping and yapping along at a new york minute. Notice too, the interrogatives, the lifting of the phrases that get question marks.
>>> New York Runs on Dunkin and Dots ...?
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBZkWkkdZA
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