Bleeding Edge - A Rolling Assessment

[David Morris]

It is predominantly a girl thing. It is a way of asking permission, or even
apologizing for the words one speaks.

On Friday, September 27, 2013, Bekah wrote:

> I think it's ackshully like, you know, Valley Girl?   (Not that it
> necessarily came from the SF Valley,  though.)     The question mark
> intonation at the end is called the "rising terminal"  and is  requesting a
> nod of positive response like - "..,  you know?"  "..,  you understand?"
>  "Capiche?"  This intonation also appears frequently in Spanish speakers,
>  "Verdad?"
>
> It was around here in the 1980s - movies,  people (usually women),  etc.
>
> Bekah
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Over here this way of talking has become endemic during recent years. A
> secondary Anglizismus (or: Amerikanismus) is what local linguists probably
> would call this. Actually it drives me mad ... it's like, you know, not
> sounding very, um, intelligent? They even dub old movies with this way of
> talking now, which sounds really strange and brings me to the the following
> questions: Since when are people in New York  lifting the phrases in case
> of sentences which actually are simple statements or fragments thererof?
> (You can also hear this way of talking in 'Mad Men', so it is, assumed the
> serial's authenticity, not that new, is it?) Is this way of talking also
> common in other regions of the US? Other anglophone countries? And: Is
> there a gender dimension in it? This seems to be the case in 'Bleeding
> Edge', 'Mad Men' and the contemporary German reality: It's mostly women who
> talk that way. So if it's really around since at least 1960 my thesis would
> be that it originally was kinda compromise formula for women entering male
> job domains: Like still sounding sweet while making statements and, you
> know, claims?
> >
> > If you think that I sound like a sexist grammar fascist you're probably
> right.
> >
> >
> > On 27.09.2013 00:01, alice wellintown wrote:
> >> The talk is zapping and yapping along at a new york minute. Notice too,
> the interrogatives, the lifting of the phrases that get question marks.
> >> New York Runs on Dunkin and Dots ...?
> >> Taylor mali poem <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBZkWkkdZA>
> >>
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