Sleepwalkers and the Germans.
Kai Frederik Lorentzen
lorentzen at hotmail.de
Wed Aug 6 07:50:24 CDT 2014
Myself I didn't get it from the list in the form you reproduced here yet
in its uncorrupted form without repetitions (see below). Hopefully this
is not virus activity. An explanation could be that it wasn't possible
for me to copy the quote from the article. I tried this a number of
times, though, before I typed it down myself. Maybe those unsuccessful
efforts eventually found their way into the mail which would explain the
repetitions. So perhaps it's the link. Sorry for the trouble and please
let me know if this mail here arrives with or without repetitions!
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> In 2010, his history of Prussia,/Iron Kingdo//m/, attracted
considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of the
Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in history. <
A brilliant study. I can recommend it to P-listers who need to know more
about Prussia than Thomas Pynchon can provide. But caution! You'll
unavoidably lose a commonplace or two ...
From the NYT review:
But “Iron Kingdom,” Christopher Clark’s stately, authoritative history
of Prussia from its humble beginnings to its ignominious end, presents a
much more complicated and compelling picture of the German state, which
is too often reduced to a caricature of spiked helmets and polished
boots. Prussia and its army were inseparable, but Prussia was also
renowned for its efficient, incorruptible civil service; its innovative
system of social services; its religious tolerance; and its unrivaled
education system, a model for the rest of Germany and the world. This
too was Prussia — a tormented kingdom that, like a tragic hero, was
brought down by the very qualities that raised it up. (...) The myth of
Prussian militarism, likewise, receives careful scrutiny. A large,
disciplined army transformed the Mark Brandenburg, with its poor soil,
scant natural resources and lack of access to the sea, into a regional
power. But the militarization of society did not really begin until the
late 19th century, and even then Mr. Clark questions whether the
Prussian experience set it apart from the rest of Europe. France and
Britain were equally committed to empire-building and military might.
“The ‘civility’ and anti-militarism of British society were perhaps more
a matter of self-perception than a faithful representation of reality,”
he writes. “It is also worth noting that the German peace movement
developed on a scale unparalleled elsewhere.”
was
was
Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not unknown
in Germany when he published his latest book, The Sleepwalkers. In 2010,
his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted considerable praise and
saw him awarded the prestigious prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an
important centre for advanced study in history. His biography of Wilhelm
II, which followed shortly after, was also generously received. The
success of Th - See more at:
http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not unknown
in Germany when he published his latest book, The Sleepwalkers. In 2010,
his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted considerable praise and
saw him awarded the prestigious prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an
important centre for advanced study in history. His biography of Wilhelm
II, which followed shortly after, was also generously received. The
success of Th - See more at:
http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not unknown
in Germany when he published his latest book, The Sleepwalkers. In 2010,
his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted considerable praise and
saw him awarded the prestigious prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an
important centre for advanced study in history. His biography of Wilhelm
II, which followed shortly after, was also generously received. The
success of Th - See more at:
http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted considerable
praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of the Historisches
Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in history. - See more
at:
http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
Yours truly,
The Prussian Pussy Eater
On 05.08.2014 14:17, alice malice wrote:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/
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> Pynchon-l /http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>
>
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On 06.08.2014 14:26, David Morris wrote:
> What's up with the extended repetitions in this post. It looks like
> virus activity.
>
> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> <lorentzen at hotmail.de <mailto:lorentzen at hotmail.de>> wrote:
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
> > In 2010, his history of Prussia,/Iron Kingdo//m/, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. <
>
> A brilliant study. I can recommend it to P-listers who need to
> know more about Prussia than Thomas Pynchon can provide. But
> caution! You'll unavoidably lose a commonplace or two ...
>
> From the NYT review:
>
> But “Iron Kingdom,” Christopher Clark’s stately, authoritative
> history of Prussia from its humble beginnings to its ignominious
> end, presents a much more complicated and compelling picture of
> the German state, which is too often reduced to a caricature of
> spiked helmets and polished boots. Prussia and its army were
> inseparable, but Prussia was also renowned for its efficient,
> incorruptible civil service; its innovative system of social
> services; its religious tolerance; and its unrivaled education
> system, a model for the rest of Germany and the world. This too
> was Prussia — a tormented kingdom that, like a tragic hero, was
> brought down by the very qualities that raised it up. (...) The
> myth of Prussian militarism, likewise, receives careful scrutiny.
> A large, disciplined army transformed the Mark Brandenburg, with
> its poor soil, scant natural resources and lack of access to the
> sea, into a regional power. But the militarization of society did
> not really begin until the late 19th century, and even then Mr.
> Clark questions whether the Prussian experience set it apart from
> the rest of Europe. France and Britain were equally committed to
> empire-building and military might. “The ‘civility’ and
> anti-militarism of British society were perhaps more a matter of
> self-perception than a faithful representation of reality,” he
> writes. “It is also worth noting that the German peace movement
> developed on a scale unparalleled elsewhere.”
> was
> was
> Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not
> unknown in Germany when he published his latest book, The
> Sleepwalkers. In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom,
> attracted considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious
> prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced
> study in history. His biography of Wilhelm II, which followed
> shortly after, was also generously received. The success of Th -
> See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not
> unknown in Germany when he published his latest book, The
> Sleepwalkers. In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom,
> attracted considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious
> prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced
> study in history. His biography of Wilhelm II, which followed
> shortly after, was also generously received. The success of Th -
> See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
> Cambridge-based Australian historian Christopher Clark was not
> unknown in Germany when he published his latest book, The
> Sleepwalkers. In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom,
> attracted considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious
> prize of the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced
> study in history. His biography of Wilhelm II, which followed
> shortly after, was also generously received. The success of Th -
> See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
> In 2010, his history of Prussia, Iron Kingdom, attracted
> considerable praise and saw him awarded the prestigious prize of
> the Historisches Kolleg, an important centre for advanced study in
> history. - See more at:
> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/#sthash.Xs7cFj10.dpuf
>
>
> Yours truly,
>
> The Prussian Pussy Eater
>
>
> On 05.08.2014 14:17, alice malice wrote:
>> http://inside.org.au/christopher-clarks-sleepwalkers-and-the-germans-a-misunderstanding/
>> -
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