Anderson, Master, IV,
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Wed Dec 3 21:42:31 CST 2014
According to the article suggested by T Eckhart The original physician on the scene at the Jonestown massacre Chief Guyanese physician Dr. MooToo, trained in Vienna and London claimed that at least 700 of the victims were murdered- injected in the back of their shoulder with poison. The first report of mass suicide came from the CIA and the story of mass suicide was shaped by a psychiatrist named Sukhdeo.
" It is true, of course, that not every psychiatrist agreed with Dr. Sukhdeo's analysis. Dr. Stephen P. Hersh, then assistant director of the National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH), commented that "The charges of brainwashing are clearly exaggerated. The concept of 'thought control' by cult leaders is elusive, difficult to define and even more difficult to prove. Because cult converts adopt beliefs that seem bizarre to their families and friends, it does not follow that their choices are being dictated by cult leaders." [37]
On Dec 2, 2014, at 10:15 PM, David Morris wrote:
> I object to the segment in The Master when Freddie is being brainwashed. It doesn't ring true. Brainwashing is mostly a myth used as a cudgel to legitimized anti-brainwashing, which DOES exist. True converts are not coerced.
All this to say that while I deeply agree with your skepticism about the concept of brainwashing, brains can be seriously fucked with as this nation should know since by the time of shock and awe a poll showed 70% of Americans believed Saddam to be part of the 9/11plot.
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> David Morris
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> On Monday, December 1, 2014, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> Am 01.12.2014 18:00, schrieb Joseph Tracy:
>
> Just to push the
> conversation a bit- is it such a stretch to consider CIA/Political
> actions and media messages in Vietnam, Cambodia, Chile, Argentina,
> El Salvador... as a kind of cultic message of liberation, in this
> case through mass violence.
>
> Hmmm, reminds me of the strange coincidence that Jim Jones, of Peoples Temple and Kool-Aid fame, and Dan Mitrione, a man who used to torture beggars to death for training purposes, were childhood friends.
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> http://jimhougan.com/JimJones2.html
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> Thomas
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