Pynchon synchronicity learned today
Perry Noid
coolwithdoc at gmail.com
Fri Dec 5 11:05:54 CST 2014
Ah cool thanks. Specifically I want to know why Oedipa isn't like the main
character from Celestine Prophecy who begins to notice strange coincidences
and determines ultimately that it's due to some cosmic force or collective
unconscious. Instead it's a possible conspiracy. They both have doubts, I
thought about that and I don't think it's about having doubt. Oedipa feels
more self aware than whatsisface from Celestine so maybe that's something
or just a side effect of being a postmodern novel. I don't know, I'm no
literature buff.
I know one of them is a pretty good book and the other one is just kinda
shitty (no offense to any fans here but it was just too convenient plot
wise and pretty boring but...whatever, I just didn't like the book). But
when does the belief in synchronicity become paranoia? Or if that is even
possible
On Dec 5, 2014 1:41 AM, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Morris knows Jung, so follow his words. My use was lax, or almost a joke
> if I want to defend myself. The Wikipedia article on it seems good,
> detailed.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Synchronicity doesn't primarily mean an occurrence of extreme
> coincidence. To my mind it means more a noticing significant chance
> occurances that are the normal, unnoticed status quo. They seem uncanny
> when we notice them, but they are actually the constant unnoticed norm.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Read Jung's introduction to Richard Wilhelm's translation of the I Ching
>> in which he describes the significance of the chance throwing of the yarrow
>> stick to get a read on one's fortune.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Goes back to Jung, as far as I know. ( which means if it goes back
>>> further, I don't know where).
>>> Essay In his Collected Works somewhere.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend gave me a copy of Celestine Prophecy to read not too long ago.
>>> Never knew anything about it until I read it. She said it is one of her
>>> favorite books. It isn't very long so I just read it. No comment on that.
>>> Anyhooz, I decided I'd give her Lot 49 for Xmas and tell her it's a similar
>>> book and that she might like it; see what happens.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions or links to a monograph, essay, or a
>>> book somewhere on paranoia and synchronicity?
>>> On Dec 4, 2014 2:07 PM, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> His time in the Navy overlapped with Bill Cosby's.
>>>> -
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>>>>
>>>
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