Pynchon synchronicity learned today
Perry Noid
coolwithdoc at gmail.com
Fri Dec 5 11:11:35 CST 2014
It's like there is this intersection between new age, occult beliefs and
conspiracy theories. That's what I wanna know more about, that intersection.
On Dec 5, 2014 9:05 AM, "Perry Noid" <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah cool thanks. Specifically I want to know why Oedipa isn't like the main
> character from Celestine Prophecy who begins to notice strange coincidences
> and determines ultimately that it's due to some cosmic force or collective
> unconscious. Instead it's a possible conspiracy. They both have doubts, I
> thought about that and I don't think it's about having doubt. Oedipa feels
> more self aware than whatsisface from Celestine so maybe that's something
> or just a side effect of being a postmodern novel. I don't know, I'm no
> literature buff.
>
> I know one of them is a pretty good book and the other one is just kinda
> shitty (no offense to any fans here but it was just too convenient plot
> wise and pretty boring but...whatever, I just didn't like the book). But
> when does the belief in synchronicity become paranoia? Or if that is even
> possible
> On Dec 5, 2014 1:41 AM, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Morris knows Jung, so follow his words. My use was lax, or almost a joke
>> if I want to defend myself. The Wikipedia article on it seems good,
>> detailed.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Synchronicity doesn't primarily mean an occurrence of extreme
>> coincidence. To my mind it means more a noticing significant chance
>> occurances that are the normal, unnoticed status quo. They seem uncanny
>> when we notice them, but they are actually the constant unnoticed norm.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Read Jung's introduction to Richard Wilhelm's translation of the I Ching
>>> in which he describes the significance of the chance throwing of the yarrow
>>> stick to get a read on one's fortune.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Goes back to Jung, as far as I know. ( which means if it goes back
>>>> further, I don't know where).
>>>> Essay In his Collected Works somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend gave me a copy of Celestine Prophecy to read not too long ago.
>>>> Never knew anything about it until I read it. She said it is one of her
>>>> favorite books. It isn't very long so I just read it. No comment on that.
>>>> Anyhooz, I decided I'd give her Lot 49 for Xmas and tell her it's a similar
>>>> book and that she might like it; see what happens.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions or links to a monograph, essay, or a
>>>> book somewhere on paranoia and synchronicity?
>>>> On Dec 4, 2014 2:07 PM, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> His time in the Navy overlapped with Bill Cosby's.
>>>>> -
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>>>>>
>>>>
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