Watching the news w Pynchon yet, able to breathe, luckily.

[Joseph Tracy]

Good Music. What is the game I play? 
On Dec 8, 2014, at 4:40 PM, alice malice wrote:

> outside the semantics, the game you say and play, it's the same fucking thing.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvFzXr-o-8
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> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> What you are saying sounds more like semantics  than  insight.  Race really is not a form or class or capital. Race is an attempt to impose social meaning on minor biological differences within the human species/family, a concept usually used to facilitate colonialism, self exaltation, abuse and exploitation. It is a subset of xenophopia. It is connected to nationalism in the Bible, and in European history where theories of race reached a zenith when the French Italians, British, Germans etc. became races.
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>>  All wars have eroded the pursuit of equality before the law, and this influx of war vets to the police force is certainly an important part of current police militarization and abuse, but the phenomena of race based abuse of police power is deeply embedded in US history and there is no time when it could not be statistically and anecdotally demonstrated.  It is certainly a political problem for people of color because there is no party with a strong record of honest dealing.
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>> While many symbolic inroads have been made toward racial justice, the declaration of a post racial America was laughably premature, the wishful thinking of a society unwilling to invest in anything but wars and financial markets and symbols of its own greatness. You seem to be endorsing that mindset by calling race a class of capital.  The problem with this is that the class of capital known as money and the class of capital known as military power are the ones calling the shots that affect everyone who has less of those classes of capital.
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>> Anyway, Capitalism is a real creepy belief system which quickly identified the market potential of racism. Capitalism is an extension of imperialism; both are antidemocratic and will always target those who interfere with their power. Racism is deeply embedded in both systems, and calling racially  acceptable targets terrorists  has been around since the Roman empire.  Labeling any males which your drones turn into hamburger  muslim terrorists is not a formula for hope and change when the police appear to operate in the same manner.
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>> Don't worry though. Hillary is coming. I hear she will be running on a platform of tough love, experienced leadership, frack the fucking peasants and ragheads and America forever. Cops everywhere will tremble before her. Glaciers will gather and freeze at her coming. Drill baby  Bill, the white negro, will be somewhere nearby, perhaps a nicely located Manhattan doghouse, radiant in the heavenly glow of her mercy, wagging his  cute tail-like membership card in the glorious inner circle of the holy chosen. So relax, reform is on the way.
>>   Fortunately even if the evil Republicans win we will still have plenty of bloodshed and high finance all around. Be sure to vote.
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>> On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:36 AM, alice malice wrote:
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>>> But the problem, as Pynchon did not understand when he wrote his Watts
>>> essay or his short story, "The Secret Integration", or as he sent
>>> Benny up to Spanish Harlem, had Sphere hang with the Radical Chic
>>> Fountainheads and Village Hipsters from Suburban Levit Towns, or even
>>> in his tracings of the New Left fringes in Vineland, though he hints
>>> at it in his SL Introduction, finally coming to see that race is not a
>>> problem to be solved, not a political issue or a card to played, but a
>>> class of capital. AGTD, at last, is Pynchon's only work that plums the
>>> question honestly and without ignorance or fear.
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>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree that the door to police work is open from the wars, and the
>>>> current wars, the longest wars, have opened revolving doors, that is,
>>>> soldiers who join police and then return to war and then return to
>>>> police and corrections. So, the abuse of prisoners in the theaters of
>>>> war, and in the abuse of citizens in the prisons here and the same
>>>> with the neighborhoods. Moreover, those that have been to war,
>>>> especially those that have been in the most dangerous areas and jobs,
>>>> are revered by the others and have a sway over the group psychology
>>>> and the culture of the police, so enforcement is emphasized.
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>>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> This has been true since the vets of Vietnam - I don’t know about Korea or prior.  And they bring with them a whole lot of baggage from the mindset they went in with to the PTSD they got while on active duty.
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>>>>> http://discoverpolicing.org/find_your_career/?fa=military_veterans
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>>>>> Bek
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>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:56 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> You may be right, Mark. I would only add that in NYC a close
>>>>>> examination of the legacy of
>>>>>> Bernard Kerik is worth looking into. The wars, Obama's wars now, are
>>>>>> revolving doors for soldiers who work in NYC corrections, and on the
>>>>>> police department. While the so-called progressive mayor disappointed
>>>>>> most of his supporters with his appointment of Bratton, the recent
>>>>>> resignations, "retirements" of Black and Latino leadership is even
>>>>>> more frightening...the recruiting of whites from the suburbs, and the
>>>>>> placement of rookies in the toughest assignments (for example in the
>>>>>> Pink) is an other problem, a union, seniority problem that has an
>>>>>> apartheid impact on housing, education, courts...etc...so, a complex
>>>>>> web or entrenched power, but the wars, the fucking wars, and the way
>>>>>> the wars are brought home to poor neighborhoods is the major problem
>>>>>> here in NYC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David, though awkwardly, is on to something when he speaks of the
>>>>>> body. Matthew Pratt Guterl, in the The Guardian, takes on this issue
>>>>>> recently:
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>>>>>> This fear and fascination with the superhuman black male body is a
>>>>>> longstanding sightline – a “racial script”, as the historian Natalia
>>>>>> Molina calls it – in which a confused, delusional vision of the
>>>>>> dangerous black male body is repeatedly invoked as a reason for some
>>>>>> terrible, violent response. This is the story of Emmett Till and Eric
>>>>>> Garner, and a thousand stories in between. It is a reminder that the
>>>>>> story of King Kong is a metaphor for racial fear. It also points, as
>>>>>> Khalil Gibran Muhammad reminds us, to the myth of the coked-up
>>>>>> criminal, immunized from pain and impossible to bring down. We should
>>>>>> be recognizing that each and every one of these dehumanizing fears is
>>>>>> dangerously – and tragically false – but time and time again, we
>>>>>> refuse to admit it.
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>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> we have read Pynchon's essay on the mind of Watts.
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>>>>>>> I Repeat that Radney Balko's The Militarization of the Police
>>>>>>> traced the start of SWAT teams to the LAPD as an organizational response
>>>>>>> To those riots.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for 40+ years, and esp since 9/11, the police departments all over the United States
>>>>>>> Have militarized themselves, prepared for " riots" instead of " freedom of assembly",  have allowed o'er the top Jacobean-like revengeful anger to build
>>>>>>> And build until: The Bigfoot cops can choke, gang-up on, beat and shoot at will.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TRP did know exactly when the cops turned. Inherent Vice.
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