Horst-Maxine-Windust

[Monte Davis]

"It was clear from the start that quantum theory challenged all our
previous preconceptions about the nature of matter and how it behaves, and
indeed about what science can possibly - even in principle - say about
these questions. Over the years, this very slipperiness has made it
irresistible to hucksters of various descriptions."

http://aeon.co/magazine/nature-and-cosmos/our-quantum-reality-problem/


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:31 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't understand your statement, " If everything is causally
> connected, free will, and all its trimmings, are convenient illusions, or
> perhaps, in this case, convenient frauds."  I don't think all-connecting
> causality precludes free will, because the multitude of free wills are ever
> intervening causes, and quantumly unsure of path. And I thus fail to follow
> the rest.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2014, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Alice, David- perfect. Exactly the dichotomy the
>> experimental design, and coincidentally- if you
>> believe in such quaint notions- the novel, seek
>> to examine. In the case of H-M-W, is it just M that
>> connects the two; are all other correlations trivial,
>> Oedipa Maas-like projections? The design
>> of the experiment seeks to explore the question
>> on the cosmic scale. If everything is causally
>> connected, free will, and all its trimmings, are
>> convenient illusions, or perhaps, in this case,
>> convenient frauds; self-serving, to be sure, but
>> self-anything, in this context, smells of fraud.
>>
>> What might a pro Nose turn up in Denmark?
>>
>> Einstein is on the ropes, but he's not down. He
>> still has one Vector left in his quiver. It's the
>> biggest Vector on this side of paradise, and it's
>> pointing, for lack of a better target, right at US.
>> It's coming from somewhere in the neighborhood
>> of Sagittarius, and its intentions, if that's the
>> proper term, seem awfully familiar.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> To: bandwraith <bandwraith at aol.com>
>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 10:27 am
>> Subject: Re: Horst-Maxine-Windust
>>
>>
>> Interbeing.  Nothing is not connected.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 9:53 am
>> Subject: Re: Horst-Maxine-Windust
>>
>>
>> Horst does not adopt the new technologies that have all but buggy-whipped
>> the traders in Chicago and in NYC by the time he moves to NYC.  He takes a
>> sublet in the tower not because he has finally given in to computer trading
>> but because he wants to keep at his old craft trade as long as possible. He
>> is, as he says, a dinosaur. As he says, the computer trading has taken over
>> and he can do his job anywhere now, but he wants to trade the old way.
>> Though the trading pits in the building of Lower Manhattan are on the lover
>> floors, Horst takes a sublet at the top. These floors have been relegated
>> to the old world traders, guys and gals who trade bonds and act as dealers
>> for UST Securities, so Cantor Fitzgerald the Firm hardest hit on September
>> the 11th. The novel clearly sides with Horst and his craft. His magic, his
>> luck and fortune, not unlike the author's own, is set against, not
>> entangled in the computer traded world that allies itself with the
>> neo-liberalism of Windust.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
>>
>
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