Beyond the zero
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Fri Feb 28 23:35:55 CST 2014
I totally agree: no studying 1st time. Just read, relax, let go what
doesn't make sense. Read it for poetry's open meanings, not tight logic.
On Friday, February 28, 2014, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
wrote:
> That's right. The first read should always be for pleasure. The pleasure
> that derives from critical reading is that much better on the next go over
> the rainbow.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Doc Sportello <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> The first thing I thought of was the archer from Bleeding Edge and that
> area between coded and codeless. That's something I missed out on by not
> reading Gravity's Rainbow first.
>
> Another theme I've picked up on so far is this idea of a sort of
> collective power being a product of anarchy (I'm sure there's a better way
> to put that). The perfect bananas growing out of that disgusting compost
> and Slothrop and his messy desk. The evacuees being ushered out by mute
> guards in the dark reminded me of the funnel-like killing floors from ATD.
>
> I'm enjoying the book so far. I wish I had a copy of that companion but I
> figure since people were hittin' it raw in the 70's I can too. I can go
> back and read all the analyses when I'm done with the book. At least I have
> you guys to talk to about it.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So wonderfully brilliant of Pynchon to have it mean both infinity and
> negative infinity. That Empsonian "ambiguity" even here...and maybe a
> connective link w negative numbers in ATD?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:20 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you could get up high enough in the sky, then you'd see that some
> > rainbows continue below the horizon. That's because when the sun and
> > rain combine to make a rainbow, they really make a full-circle
> > rainbow. We can't see all of the circle, because the horizon blocks it
> > from our view. Pilots high in the sky do sometimes report seeing
> > genuine full-circle rainbows.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.weatherwizkids.com/weather-optical-illusions.htm
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Doc Sportello <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I was just thinking of an upside down parabola that comes from negative
> inf
> >> on x and y whose vertex has a pos y value and therefore 2 roots so
> "beyond
> >> the zero" is infinity. You could also say negative infinity. In real
> life
> >> rockets go up and down in a parabola but they start and end at the
> surface
> >> of the earth. If you fire a rocket with a sufficient angle and speed
> then,
> >> like pirate and the gang from the beginning of the book, you won't hear
> an
> >> explosion because it would be falling indefinitely. Not that that's
> what's
> >> going on in the book.
> >>
> >> I should probably finish it first then think about all this
> >>
> >> On Feb 27, 2014 8:57 PM, "David Morris" <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You already knew the answer, of course. But remember the graph as it
> >>> continues on and on beyond the zero, over and over.
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If the zero is the x horizon, and the trajectory starts at zero, when
> the
> >>>> path returns to zero, where does the math take it next? The answer
> should
> >>>> be obvious.
> >>>>
> >>>> David Morris
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014, Doc Sportello <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm only 20 pages in but I wanted to let it be known that I've begun,
> >>>>> which is not to say I'll finish, GR. I've been told that the title,
> among
> >>>>> countless other things, alludes to the trajectory of a roc
>
>
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