Another Geopolitical Triumph For Vladimir Putin!

[alice malice]

It's funny. Not ha ha funny, because this is not a game and their are
lives in the balance. Not just the the murders and the killings, but
the quality of life for millions of people.

What's funny is how ridiculous the speculations are.  Yes. It's
difficult to know what is going on.

 The popular and mass media aren't saying if they know, but their spin
and spit are striking out most readers and viewers.

Including some very smart ones who allow their passions and
ideological positions to blind them from the facts.

 And, ideology and passion aside, what intelligent person wold believe
half of what anyone reports?


Of course the Counterpunch bunch are fanning the flames of a renewed
cold war, not because they want a war or expect one, because as stupid
as they sound, they are not idiots, but  to sell their stuff, even as
they condemn Capital and the West, for, doing nothing or not enough,
or for orchestrating.

Surely, Capital is behind it. Technology and Energy and Information
and the oil, ....oligarchy on both sides.

What else ins new.

But what I find most amusing is that the sources Thomas provides, as
he admits, are less reputable as they dig into what they call  the
facts.


The facts tell me that it's nothing much to worry about when one looks
at the big picture of the world. Putin is a pest. An asshole and a
thug. Obama doesn't much give a damn for the grand pivot plan or the
expansion of Western power into Ukraine.

Even if he wanted to do this, he'd fail.  And he knows it. We all know
it. America can't expand NATO without consequences it isn't prepared
to accept.

So it's all mostly rhetoric from the West. Obama claims victory for
multilateral diplomacy but he knows, and we know (so there are things
we know) that Putin won the first few rounds of a fight that matters
little to the world. It's not a new cold war. It's not much of
anything. A minor squabble for the US and the West, but way down at
the bottom of major problems. So, Putin got Crimea. That's his
victory. Go Putin.

It makes sense. Even Putin sense. And he will, eventually, develop the
oil an gas in the sea...so it goes and there is nothing the West can
do to stop this, though they will put up a few sanctions and so forth.

 Now what does he want? Not much. Oh, the oil and gas. So, the fight
will muddle through a few rounds and end. The West punished Putin and
the Chinese got a bit in the gas deal. So what! NATO expansion is not
going to happen. Never was a serious threat.   If the EU tries to
bring Ukraine in, Putin will dismember the nation.

The oligarchs get fat while the people suffer.

What else is new.

THE US can't afford to defend Poland. Can it pay the price of Ukraine?
NO. End of cold war, warm war, hot war.

Both sides claim victory. In the short term Putin has won the prize.
In the long run the people will pay the price and blame the West for
sanctions and Capital expansion etc.


Funny, but these are the facts.


The conspiracy spinners of cold war renewed may have the credentials
and the citations, but they are no more credible than Dr. Oz.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's funny. I seem to remember massive street protest demanding, at first,
> only a trade pact with EU, and then after a violent and deadly attempt by
> Yanukovitch to stop the protests, universal demands for Yanukovitch's
> departure (or arrest). So how did the neocons (inept at all logistics - only
> good at lies) engineer those protests?
>
> On Wednesday, July 2, 2014, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> But back to rich's post: It may well be that regime change in Ukraine was
>> planned and pushed onwards by the Neocons as opposed to the US-government as
>> such. Who else would risk nuclear holocaust for, well, what exactly? Ousting
>> the corrupt Yanukovitch and spreading freedom and democracy? Ridiculous.
>> Weakening Russia through Ukraine's turn to the West, in this case mainly the
>> EU? More likely but not convincing. Drawing Russia into a conflict which may
>> result, at the very least, in its isolation on the international stage and
>> harsh sanctions which may or may not cripple the Russian economy? Driving a
>> wedge between Russia and the EU? Promoting gas won by hydraulic fracturing?
>> Rather more likely. What I do not want to believe yet is that, as Whitney
>> and Roberts at Counterpunch suggest, the US wants war with Russia.
>>
>> So, this may be the Neocons' considerations. But why do Obama and Kerry
>> act as they do?
>>
>> Thomas
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