Another Geopolitical Triumph For Vladimir Putin!

[David Morris]

The snipers seem to have been the "tipping point."  But a tipping point
only occurs after a very big general feeling is given that last straw,
breaking the camel's back.  Some one might take advantage of a situation
ripe with discontent (I don't know if this is true about the snipers), but
that is far from "orchestrating a coup." I shouldn't have to enumerated the
differences.

When in Egypt the protestors succeeded in ousting Murabak, was that a coup?
 No.  The coup happened when the military took power back from the people,
and put any further protestors in jail.  Nothing anywhere near that
situation has happened in Ukraine.

David

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
wrote:

> The "violent and deadly attempt by Yanukovitch to stop the protests" --
> this is the heart of the matter, because the sniper attacks on unarmed
> protestors (you have certainly watched the rather disturbing videos?) very
> understandably inflamed the protestors so much that they did not accept the
> agreement of February 21 which called for federalization and the
> disarmament of paramilitary groups like Right Sector. They insisted that
> Yanukovitch must go. By now it has become clear to every informed and
> thinking person that this was a false flag attack. The snipers shot at both
> police and protesters. To give you only one example (you are certainly
> familiar with the Paets-Ashton phone call?): It has been stated by the head
> of the investigative commission in Kiev that the snipers most probably came
> from the side of the protestors. They definitely were not Berkut. The
> sniper attacks, he said, was like the Kennedy assassination: We will never
> know.
>
> No, you will never read this in the NYT or in "Der Spiegel." It should be
> a headline.
>
> I never said anything against demonstrators demanding a trade pact with
> the EU. I also believe that a good part of the protests were genuine and
> wholly legitimate. I also think that the February 21 agreement was okay,
> even if I had to hold my nose at watching Steinmeier shaking hands with the
> Swoboda Nazi whose name I always have to copy and paste from Wiki even
> though I know most of the letters to it.
>
> As for how the thing was orchestrated by the US or the neocons (as I said,
> I wish something would do the same for German involvement), please see the
> articles I provided links to in reply to rich's post.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Am 02.07.2014 22:32, schrieb David Morris:
>
>> It's funny. I seem to remember massive street protest demanding, at
>> first, only a trade pact with EU, and then after a violent and
>> deadly attempt by Yanukovitch to stop the protests, universal demands
>> for Yanukovitch's departure (or arrest). So how did the neocons (inept
>> at all logistics - only good at lies) engineer those protests?
>>
>
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