Yet another take on True Detective - SPOILERS

[John Bailey]

True Detective's second season is apparently about "hard women, bad
men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation
system." YES PLEASE.

My response to the ending was similar to yours, Laura, though my
opinion did shift somewhat after reading this interview with the
writer (below).

He seems to imply that the "get the killer" finale will be satisfying
for those looking for a traditional wrap-up but *should* be
problematic for viewers more interested in the bigger picture, because
obviously there's a whole history and culture of terrible misdeeds
that the baddie was only part of (and interestingly, he emphasises
that the killer was a product of that history, not an inherently evil
being). Despite all of the Weird Fiction dressing, I think he might be
more guided by something like The Wire, in that he wants to create a
macro look at a culture of power, violence and abuse, and this will
build over subsequent seasons.

"The conspiracies that I've researched and encountered, they seem to
happen very ad hoc: they become conspiracies when it's necessary to
have  a conspiracy. I think it would have rang false to have Hart and
Cohle suddenly clean up 50 years of the culture history that led to
Errol Childress, or to get all the men in that video. It's important
to me, I think, that Cohle says, "We didn't get em all, Marty," and
Marty says, "We ain't going to. This isn't that kind of world." This
isn't the kind of world where you mop up everything. We discharged our
duty, but of course there are levels and wheels and historical
contexts to what happened that we'll never be able to touch."

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/true-detective-creator-nic-pizzolatto-looks-back-on-season-1/

Also liked this: "For people who thought Cohle's philosophy was simply
hogwash, be aware that you're calling Arthur Schopenhauer and
Friedrich Nietzsche hogwash. Just be aware of that. That is not, in
fact, a college freshman stoned eating a pizza talking about life;
that's Arthur Schopenhauer's thoughts on life."

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Heikki Raudaskoski
<hraudask at sun3.oulu.fi> wrote:
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> True, and even the first part of JJ's Ulysses was first published in
> serial form (in The Little Review).
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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
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>> Yes, being able to watch a show at one's own pace is very rewarding. The difference between immersing oneself in a novel and reading a weekly (or even monthly) serialization of a novel.
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>> http://plympton.com/about/a-short-history-of-serial-fiction/
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>> Laura
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Heikki Raudaskoski <hraudask at sun3.oulu.fi>
>> >Sent: Mar 11, 2014 4:51 PM
>> >To: kelber at mindspring.com
>> >Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> >Subject: Re: Yet another take on True Detective - SPOILERS
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>> >
>> >Hi,
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>> >I've only seen the first four episodes so far, but your spoilers are
>> >OK as far as I'm concerned. I mean that for me in this millennium, TV
>> >shows have been more interesting than novels. The era of really
>> >enchanting novels having ended around 1997... Like Rich, am awaiting
>> >the new Coover.
>> >
>> >
>> >Heikki
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>> >
>> >Quoting kelber at mindspring.com:
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>> >> SPOILERS
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>> >> Have to say, I was incredibly disappointed with the finale, from the
>> >>   trite redneck psycho-killer, to the sappy embracing of the light,
>> >> to  the in-your-face Christ imagery, to the retreat to Family. Come
>> >> to  think of it, a lot of this turns up in Late Pynchon's endings.
>> >> Don't  like them there either.
>> >>
>> >> Laura
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
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>> >>> Subject: Re: Yet another take on True Detective
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>> >>> An HBO/AMC show is the new mo/pomo novel.
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