What happens to a conspiracy revealed?

[alice malice]

Do you remember global cooling? I do. The planet was not warming but
cooling. And we needed to solve this problem. It was a crisis, the
scientists said. Of course, they were wrong.  Now, I'm confident that the
scientists have got it right this time and that we have a major crisis on
our hands, but I suspect that, just as with global cooling, the science is
not as independent as it claims to be and that money and politics, and
crowd behavior, psychology may be playing a part still. Conspiracy? Maybe
this crisis will reverse itself. Who knows? I know, the scientists.

Do you remember, it wasn't more than ten years ago, when the scientists
said the oil was gonna run out in 50 years? Well, that's mot gonna happen.
Look at commodity prices. The super cycle ís over. The BRIC nations and
emerging economies are sucking wind as the money flows out, as the
US tapering unwinds QE, the commodity producers, like  Canada, have sinking
currencies vs, the us$, and the us is now the largest producer of energy in
the world, even though it has a ban on crude exports. What a differences a
decade makes. The peace dividend is ours. We are six years into the
recovery, and on our way to 3% GDP, even as the jackasses in Washington cut
spending and raise taxes in the middle of the greatest contraction since
the Great Depression. Look at Europe. What a mess. Depression! Look at
Japan. The Abe arrows can't hit Godzilla deflation. Size matters. The US is
the locomotive, though the world's gdp is now half in the Ems, and they are
growing, in size and influence, the US is the engine of wealth. We can 't
all be Sweeds. Someone has to be the cut throat capitalists. Someone will
be the empire of wealth. Right now it's the US. Should it be, could it be a
kinder and gentler Empire? Pynchon likes to consider the possibilities, the
might have, the spaces and moments that, for a fleeting anarchistic moment,
might have been, but for some graceless reason, were not. After 9/11 the
maniacs led the charge into a zone, and the maddening crowd marched in. It
might have been different.  But it wasn't. But, as you say, the current
market will crash again. Maybe when it does the planet will begin cooling.
The US won't let Putin take Ukraine. He's played a poor hand. The
transition to the knowledge economy is painful, as automation depresses
wages, and workers are weakened further, but it will continue. How much
pain will the American endure? Relatively little. And for that reduced
pain, that structural strain subdued, the American will sell his soul and
his democracy to the Elect. The tide will rise, most boats will too. And
the Empire of Wealth will re-tool and burn on long after we're down in the
hole.
On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Just wrong. The effect of our version of capitalism has not distributed
> but concentrated wealth.  Actually corporate capitalism does not know what
> wealth really is, assuming it is raw power in the form of dollars which
> mostly represents burnable fuel. The fuel is running out, and being turned
> into acidic oceans and carbon saturated atmosphere which will raise sea
> levels and is producing catastrophic climate changes.  And there is no
> magic replacement on the horizon. Rather there is a global infrastructure
> utterly dependent on a limited a resource.This is not wealth but an insane
> and planless disruption of a planetary ecosystem as though planets were
> some kind of automatic teller with an infinite supply of capital goods.
>  Machiavelli was a guide to criminal authoritarianism. Yes it works for a
> few for a while, but our empire is no more benign than any other,
> Capitalism is out of ideas and is a boorish idiot eating everything in
> sight , starting with the weak.  The current market system will crash.
>  There is simply too much imaginary money chasing too little of real value.
>  As far as your orthodoxy on Ukraine, I don't buy it. I am no fan of Putin
> but he has done better in terms of GDP and raised standard of living over
> his time in office than the western states.  I believe the current stand
> off will stand despite Kerry's hypocritical bombast and Crimea will be
> better off in future days than Ukraine.
> On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, alice malice wrote:
>
> >
> > This idea usually goes along with the one that connects the MIC to the
> Oil industry than argues that US exploits in the region have only made
> wealthy, the powerful and wealthy, more powerful, the powerful. But the US
> and it allies have also raised the living standards of ordinary people. Not
> by trickle down, but by dominating weaker nations, colonization...so
> on...and  own, whatever....if the US did not, and if the US does not
> continue to, kill, and meddle...push Russia on Ukraine...etc...support
> Israel....it's GDP, and the GDPs of other nations, nations like Canada,
> Australia, Norway, Japan....yes, those nice clean countries that never get
> blood on their safe and comfortable lives... will suffer. Most people
> believe this and that is why they put up with the Machiavellian  US.
> >
> > Somebody has got to be the Empire.
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Michael Bailey <mikebailey at gmx.us<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Rich wrote "how would you suggest we deal with these people"
> >
> > How about by not making their lives subject to a "great game", not
> deposing their elected governments and not stealing their oil?
> >
> > Then if they unprovoked attack us, well! We shall be ready, and give
> them *such* a thumping! &
> > "live life, every golden minute of it!" - Pynchon-l /
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