Putin's Counter Revolution

[Joseph Tracy]

I'm just thinking it might help if people thought there might be one there somewhere, not pretty, for god's sake not bare , but just something more than unadulterated pomposity .   
On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:13 AM, David Morris wrote:

> Kerry's job requires jive talk, not soul talk.  Soul-bearing isn't/shouldn't be his mainstay.
> Do you think he a brain problem?
> 
> On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> I think everybody involved should be spanked and sent to bed without supper.  Also we need a fundraiser to get Kerry a soul/brain transplant. The haircut is good but not that good.
> On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:59 PM, alice malice wrote:
> 
> >
> > It's a complicated problem. There are no good choices here, but Putin needs to be punished. He's got what he wanted, now he has to pay for it.
> > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> > >
> > >> When Putin spoke of 'chaos' in Kiev and Ukraine as a whole, in his
> > >> press conference a few days after the Crimean invasion, he must have
> > >> realised that his foreign audience, as well as the citizens of Kiev
> > >> and all the people of Ukraine who favoured the revolution, knew there
> > >> was no chaos.
> > >
> > >
> > > No chaos, perhaps, but an unelected government that has come to power
> > > through a coup d'etat pushed through by right wing extremists in violation
> > > of various agreements between the government and the protesters. Right wing
> > > extremists presumably represented only a very small part of the protesters
> > > against a corrupt but democratically elected government but now constitute
> > > twenty percent of the government and have been given/taken over
> > > responsibility for national security/the military.
> > >
> > > It seems that this is what we wanted, supported and continue to support.
> > >
> > > I am no fan of Putin or Yanukovich but every account of the events that is
> > > critical of Putin's actions needs to address these issues. Otherwise it is
> > > merely propaganda of the most dangerous sort.
> > >
> > > And of course, there is also the expansion of NATO and the geopolitical
> > > chessboard, not to mention Chevron and Nuland/Kagan or the interests of the
> > > EU and Germany which led to the shameful display of our foreign minister
> > > making deals with a barely disguised Nazi like Oleh Tyahnybok (as for
> > > shameful displays, see also Tyahnybok/McCain).
> > >
> > > And I will not even mention the decisive issue of who exactly deployed the
> > > snipers.
> > >
> > > As far as I am concerned, the last time I have seen German and US
> > > politicians and pundits in such Orwellian harmony was when they decided to
> > > bomb the sh** out of Serbia. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. The
> > > stakes are much higher now, though...
> > >
> > > Enter John Kerry for some comic relief:
> > >
> > > "You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert
> > > your interests (...) This is an act of aggression that is completely trumped
> > > up in terms of its pretext. It's really 19th century behavior in the 21st
> > > century."
> > >
> > > If political satire had not been dead since Henry Kissinger received the
> > > Nobel Peace Prize, it certainly would be now.
> > >
> > > The Ides of March, eh?
> > >
> > > Thomas
> >
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