Putin's Counter Revolution

[David Morris]

Kerry is a mouthpiece.  What you call pompously is the language of state.
 Your complaint here is naive. Despite your knowledge, you yearn for
naïveté. That Peter Panism won't fly that far.  You really could become a
spiritual aspirant, but then you'd have to get humble and silent for a
while.  No pronouncements until you get bonked from above. Above means not
you.

On Sunday, March 16, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> I'm just thinking it might help if people thought there might be one there
> somewhere, not pretty, for god's sake not bare , but just something more
> than unadulterated pomposity .
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:13 AM, David Morris wrote:
>
> > Kerry's job requires jive talk, not soul talk.  Soul-bearing
> isn't/shouldn't be his mainstay.
> > Do you think he a brain problem?
> >
> > On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > I think everybody involved should be spanked and sent to bed without
> supper.  Also we need a fundraiser to get Kerry a soul/brain transplant.
> The haircut is good but not that good.
> > On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:59 PM, alice malice wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's a complicated problem. There are no good choices here, but Putin
> needs to be punished. He's got what he wanted, now he has to pay for it.
> > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Thomas Eckhardt <
> thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> When Putin spoke of 'chaos' in Kiev and Ukraine as a whole, in his
> > > >> press conference a few days after the Crimean invasion, he must have
> > > >> realised that his foreign audience, as well as the citizens of Kiev
> > > >> and all the people of Ukraine who favoured the revolution, knew
> there
> > > >> was no chaos.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No chaos, perhaps, but an unelected government that has come to power
> > > > through a coup d'etat pushed through by right wing extremists in
> violation
> > > > of various agreements between the government and the protesters.
> Right wing
> > > > extremists presumably represented only a very small part of the
> protesters
> > > > against a corrupt but democratically elected government but now
> constitute
> > > > twenty percent of the government and have been given/taken over
> > > > responsibility for national security/the military.
> > > >
> > > > It seems that this is what we wanted, supported and continue to
> support.
> > > >
> > > > I am no fan of Putin or Yanukovich but every account of the events
> that is
> > > > critical of Putin's actions needs to address these issues. Otherwise
> it is
> > > > merely propaganda of the most dangerous sort.
> > > >
> > > > And of course, there is also the expansion of NATO and the
> geopolitical
> > > > chessboard, not to mention Chevron and Nuland/Kagan or the interests
> of the
> > > > EU and Germany which led to the shameful display of our foreign
> minister
> > > > making deals with a barely disguised Nazi like Oleh Tyahnybok (as for
> > > > shameful displays, see also Tyahnybok/McCain).
> > > >
> > > > And I will not even mention the decisive issue of who exactly
> deployed the
> > > > snipers.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I am concerned, the last time I have seen German and US
> > > > politicians and pundits in such Orwellian harmony was when they
> decided to
> > > > bomb the sh** out of Serbia. Didn't like it then, don't like it now.
> The
> > > > stakes are much higher now, though...
> > > >
> > > > Enter John Kerry for some comic relief:
> > > >
> > > > "You just don't invade another country on phony pretext in order to
> assert
> > > > your interests (...) This is an act of aggression that is completely
> trumped
> > > > up in terms of its pretext. It's really 19th century behavior in the
> 21st
> > > > century."
> > > >
> > > > If political satire had not been dead since Henry Kissinger received
> the
> > > > Nobel Peace Prize, it certainly would be now.
> > > >
> > > > The Ides of March, eh?
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > >
> >
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