Putin's Counter Revolution
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Mon Mar 17 21:58:54 CDT 2014
In this reguard I agree completely.
Banker should have been prosecuted. Ok, we have no balls against bankers.
OK, they own us. What next?
You tell me. Corporations of corporations? Infinite aggregation of money
in higher floors? It cost more the higher you go go go. Keep going!
Pynchon's mad bus driver. He is us.
David Morris
On Monday, March 17, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> You just can't see the inner generosity of these guys. I mean, they
> give(sell), and they give(sell), and they give(sell) some more and then
> people get all in a hissy fit when they take it all back with interest and
> a few pounds of fresh dripping flesh.. sheesh A guys gotta feed his family.
>
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>
> > Okay. Not my remit anyhow.
> > I hope for the best!
> >
> > Maybe austerity won't be such a big part of the back end this time.
> >
> > Maybe the smarts will be applied to something else besides bigger
> bonuses for the FIRE sector.
> > Did you read how bonuses for those guys are equal to the annual wages of
> everyone working at minimum wage in the US?
> >
> http://aattp.org/billions-in-bonuses-given-to-wall-street-in-2013-exceeds-all-minimum-wage-workers-pay-combined-video/
> >
> > They "helped" Greece achieve its current status.
> >
> > They help convert pension obligations to broken promises in this country.
> >
> > A little skepticism doesn't seem out of line.
> >
> >
> >
> > alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What? You don't think there are people in the US, at GS, that can be
> > part of a solution? Look, you guys have to get over this idea that
> > America is corrupt and can do no good in the world. The world is
> > reaching out to the Americans for assistance because the Americans are
> > fucking smart and can help. Not that the Dutch can't. They too are
> > smart and capable. Not that England can't...etc...though the LIBOR
> > fiasco has shifted the balance back to NYC. Howabout that? What go
> > around come around some times.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Michael Bailey <mikebailey at gmx.us>
> wrote:
> > > "Technical financial help" from IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sacks? Shoot
> me
> > > now!
> > > --
> > > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> > >
> > > alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The issue is not so much Crimea's independence but the future of
> Ukraine,
> > >> and more importantly, Russia's role in the region, in Europe, in the
> world.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The US has a huge relationship with Russia. We are partners on
> countless
> > >> projects and agreements and treaties.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And the world is one market. To punish Russia, the US has to drive
> down
> > >> the price of oil, not gas.To drive down gas prices, if possible, or to
> > >> replace Russian gas, if possible, would take decades. But the US
> should
> > >> start on it. In fact it has. But it's oil that makes Russia turn. And
> the US
> > >> can drive down the price of oil and should.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> How we got here:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> First, my argument is not for nuclear war, but deterrent. Has Ukraine
> > >> nuclear weapons, this problem would not exist. Putin would not dare
> send
> > >> troops into a nuclear armed Ukraine.
> > >>
> > >> Second, my argument is that the spread of nuclear technology and arms
> > >> can't be stopped. Even nations, in my example, like Brasil, that have
> no
> > >> current threat on their boarders, that are net exporters of energy,
> will
> > >> build nuclear programs. Brasil has a nuclear submarine program.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Remember the Falkland Islands War? The United Kingdom and Argentina
> claim
> > >> control over the Falkland Islands. Has Argentina the bomb, things
> might have
> > >> been different.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Could the US maintain GTMO in Cuba if Castro had missiles?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The Russian military siege of Ukrainian military installations in
> Crimea.
> > >>
> > >> Russian President Putin contends that Russia had responded to a
> political
> > >> coup in Ukraine, sending thousands of Russian troops to take effective
> > >> control of Crimea because ethnic Russians there were being set upon by
> > >> Ukranian extremists.
> > >>
> > >> After pressure from the US and Europe, Putin ordered troops involved
> in
> > >> military exercises inside Russia near Ukraine to return to base he
> conceded
> > >> that -
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