Boorman's Hope and Glory

[jochen stremmel]

He didn't steal it, he developed it, took it to a new level.

Birth of a nation is a great but a racist film, too; the Ku Klux Klan was
glorified; the use of the Ride of the Valkyries was affirmative, in both
directions, I presume.

In Apocalypse Now it isn't used like that at all, it comes out of the
loudspeakers of the helicopters, it's deemed as the right music for this
occasion by a character of the movie, Robert Duvall's Lieutenant Colonel
Bill Kilgore, the man who loves the smell of Napalm in the morning. So,
yes, a much better use of Wagner than in Birth of the Nation, if you ask
me. (Coppola, of course, knew about Griffith's use of the Ride.)


2014-05-24 11:49 GMT+02:00 Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>:

>
> > best use of Wagner next to Apocalypse Now <
>
> Didn't Coppola steal this from Griffith?
>
> It's more than twenty years ago that I saw "Birth of a Nation", but my
> memory seems to work:
>
> "Nur ein paar Jahre nach Froehlich ließ David Wark Griffith, der
> Gründervater des amerikanischen Kinos in seinem Bürgerkriegsepos "Birth of
> a nation" rassistische Ku-Klux-Klan-Reiter ausgerechnet zu Wagners
> Walkürenritt über die Leinwand galoppieren - ein Einfall, den 60 Jahre
> später Francis Ford Coppola kopierte, als die US-Armee in seinem
> "Apocalypse Now" zur gleichen Musik vom Hubschrauber aus vietnamesische
> Dörfer bombardierten."
>
> http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/wagner-im-kino.691.de.html?
> dram:article_id=244971
>
> I like the use Lars von Trier makes of "Tristan und Isolde" in his great
> movie "Melancholia".
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kP-vuOy8cU
>
>
> On 23.05.2014 17:32, rich wrote:
>
>> always been a sucker for Excalibur. best use of Wagner next to Apocalypse
>> Now
>>
>> rich
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:28 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<mailto:
>> fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     http://www.nytimes.com/video/movies/1247467863644/in-the-
>> name-of-the-father.html?playlistId=1194811622317
>>
>>
>>
>>
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