Pynchon Quoted
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Nov 13 16:08:15 CST 2014
If that were the case, you wouldn't be permitted to say so on the P-list.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Maybe, maybe.
>
> But Ernie Tarnow's words are simple facts, aren't they?
>
> What we got today is permanent worldwide martial law.
>
> 2014-11-13 17:32 GMT+01:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
> > Yes. I left that point out on purpose. If Pynchon didn't see the
> > subtleties, contradictions and paradoxes, he wouldn't be the great writer
> > that he is.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Pynchon writes about that, AND a great deal more -- some of it
> >> contradicting and cross-cutting that -- which St. Clair missed, ignored
> or
> >> denied in his P-list days 20 years back. It's symptomatic that he
> presents
> >> fictional character Ernie Tarnow's words as Pynchon's (without even
> double
> >> quotes), and capitalizes "Their" (which Pynchon didn't).
> >>
> >> All of us, at some point, seek validation for our own views in our
> >> favorite authors. Some of us outgrow it.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, Pynchon does indulge him, no? In other words, Pynchon writes
> about
> >>> exactly what HE is looking for.
> >>>
> >>> David Morris
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah, good old Steely: still getting from Pynchon exactly what he looks
> >>>> for.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:38 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From Jeffrey St Clair's Facebook news feed:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thomas Pynchon: "Never forget your Internet was Their invention, this
> >>>>> magical convenience that creeps now like a smell through the smallest
> >>>>> details of our lives, the shopping, the housework, the homework, the
> taxes,
> >>>>> absorbing our energy, eating up our precious time. And there's no
> innocence.
> >>>>> Anywhere. Never was. It was conceived in sin, the worst possible. As
> it kept
> >>>>> growing, it never stopped carrying in its heart a bitter-cold death
> wish for
> >>>>> the planet, and don't think anything's changed, kid. Call it
> freedom, it's
> >>>>> based on control. Everybody connected together, impossible anybody
> should
> >>>>> ever get lost, ever again. Take the next step, connect it to these
> cell
> >>>>> phones, you got a total Web of surveillance, inescapable. You
> remember the
> >>>>> comics in the Daily News? Dick Tracy's wrist radio? It'll be
> everywhere, the
> >>>>> rubes'll all be begging to wear one, handcuffs of the future.
> Terrific. What
> >>>>> they dream about at the Pentagon, worldwide martial law."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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