M&D - Chapter 21 - Mason&Rebekah

[David Ewers]

Right om, Jerome!

Happy birthday Mr. Thibodeau (from a fellow '70 child...)!


On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:42 PM Jolly good day we are having, Jerome Park wrote:

> I'm reading it while listening to Sun Ra 100 years in and it it feels right now....
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> http://www.npr.org/2014/05/22/314593139/saturn-still-swings-celebrating-sun-ra-at-100
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e67IqMoz4M&noredirect=1
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:25 PM, David Ewers <dsewers at comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm reading something similar, so you're probably reading it wrong.  But if there are enough of us...
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> On Apr 12, 2015, at 5:55 PM Jolly good day we are having, Jerome Park wrote:
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>> but if days are reclaimable, if Newton's machine may be jammed yet by a miracle, a fancy....might not the dialogue that Mason has with his father, yet, by grace, by Nature, and her chaotic evolution against the day, save him if not their relationship? 
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>> Save his relationship with his sons? 
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>> Maybe I'm reading it all wrong. Trying to hard to make the book more than a metafictional masterpiece. Maybe. 
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>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jerome Park <jeromepark3141 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tanner, Tony. The American Mystery: American Literature from Emerson to DeLillo. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 2000,  242pp., ISBN: 0521783747
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>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Jerome Park <jeromepark3141 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In this example the hypothetical or subjunctive dialogue is only a paragraph. And there it is, right there, on the same page. Had he, instead, would have...
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>> Why rub it in? 
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>> All subjunctive, of course, had young Mason gone to his father, this might have been the conversation likely to result.
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>> I don't think Pynchon has underestimated the reader here. There is something else to it. 
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>> Tony Tanner says that P's use of the subjunctive is "an elegiac lament for the accelerating erosion of subjunctivity (225). 
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>> A brilliant reader that Tony Tanner! 
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>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com> wrote:
>> Next paragraph, an imagined dialogue between Mason and his father as Jerome points out. Do you agree, though, that the last sentence: «All subjunctive, of course, had young Mason gone to his father, this might have been the conversation likely to result.» is over the top. I mean it’s not as if we’ve forgotten it was imaginary from the start?
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>> Don't you feel a little underestimated as a reader? 
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