a Plist thematic trope....

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 23:02:34 CDT 2015


Yes. But non-non duality isn't non-duality. THAT is the point of neti neti:
"neither yet not neither" isn't exactly "both/and." It is much more
inclusive. It is NOT anything you can exclude, even duality.

David Morris

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It sounds like non-duality, neti neti, not this, not this...what "I am" is
> not this, and not this...
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> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqmorris at gmail.com');>> wrote:
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> A common Eastern way to measure/perceive/describe Reality is to use double
> naught adjectives.  The "Naught/notNaught" adjective is the most slippery
> kind. It isn't this thing/concept, but it isn't not that thing/concept.
> "Is-ness" is only understood as a paradox, and only experienced by
> spiritual (real) channels. Every Eastern description is first negated, but
> that negation is also negated.  The goal of that spiritual path is to
> always question ones's perception of Reality as an invitation for a higher
> inherent reality to emerge, almost a paradox -embracing madness, Ultimate
> Reality.  A challenging path, to say the least.
>
> David Morris
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> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.kohut at gmail.com');>> wrote
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>> Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski ([kɔˈʐɨpski]; July 3, 1879 – March 1,
>> 1950) was a Polish-American independent scholar
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>> He thought that certain uses of the verb "to be", called the "is
>> of identity" and the "is of predication", were faulty in structure, e.g., a
>> statement such as, "Elizabeth is a fool" (said of a person
>> named "Elizabeth" who has done something that we regard as foolish).
>> In Korzybski's system, one's assessment of Elizabeth belongs to a
>> higher order of abstraction than Elizabeth herself. Korzybski's remedy was
>> to deny identity; in this example, to be aware continually that "Elizabeth"
>> is not what we call her. We find Elizabeth not in the verbal domain, the
>> world of words, but the nonverbal domain (the two, he said, amount to
>> different orders of abstraction). This was expressed by Korzybski's most
>> famous premise, "the map is not the territory". Note that this premise uses
>> the phrase "is not", a form of "to be"; this and many other examples show
>> that he did not intend to
>> abandon "to be" as such. In fact, he said explicitly[citation
>> needed] that there were no structural problems with the verb "to be" when
>> used as an auxiliary verb or when used to state existence or location.
>> It was even acceptable at times to use the faulty forms of the verb
>> "to be," as long as one was aware of their structural limitations.
>>
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