a Plist thematic trope....
Keith Davis
kbob42 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 23:06:48 CDT 2015
The mind reels....
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> On Aug 7, 2015, at 12:02 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes. But non-non duality isn't non-duality. THAT is the point of neti neti: "neither yet not neither" isn't exactly "both/and." It is much more inclusive. It is NOT anything you can exclude, even duality.
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> David Morris
>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It sounds like non-duality, neti neti, not this, not this...what "I am" is not this, and not this...
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>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A common Eastern way to measure/perceive/describe Reality is to use double naught adjectives. The "Naught/notNaught" adjective is the most slippery kind. It isn't this thing/concept, but it isn't not that thing/concept. "Is-ness" is only understood as a paradox, and only experienced by spiritual (real) channels. Every Eastern description is first negated, but that negation is also negated. The goal of that spiritual path is to always question ones's perception of Reality as an invitation for a higher inherent reality to emerge, almost a paradox -embracing madness, Ultimate Reality. A challenging path, to say the least.
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>>> David Morris
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>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote
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>>>> Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski ([kɔˈʐɨpski]; July 3, 1879 – March 1,
>>>> 1950) was a Polish-American independent scholar
>>>
>>>> He thought that certain uses of the verb "to be", called the "is of identity" and the "is of predication", were faulty in structure, e.g., a statement such as, "Elizabeth is a fool" (said of a person named "Elizabeth" who has done something that we regard as foolish). In Korzybski's system, one's assessment of Elizabeth belongs to a higher order of abstraction than Elizabeth herself. Korzybski's remedy was to deny identity; in this example, to be aware continually that "Elizabeth" is not what we call her. We find Elizabeth not in the verbal domain, the world of words, but the nonverbal domain (the two, he said, amount to different orders of abstraction). This was expressed by Korzybski's most famous premise, "the map is not the territory". Note that this premise uses the phrase "is not", a form of "to be"; this and many other examples show that he did not intend to
>>>> abandon "to be" as such. In fact, he said explicitly[citation needed] that there were no structural problems with the verb "to be" when used as an auxiliary verb or when used to state existence or location. It was even acceptable at times to use the faulty forms of the verb "to be," as long as one was aware of their structural limitations.
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