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[David Morris]

Not "this" but not-not "this" is null in math.  No result. No useful
information.
It is the Koan a Pynchon plays with.

David Morris

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. But non-non duality isn't non-duality. THAT is the point of neti
> neti: "neither yet not neither" isn't exactly "both/and." It is much more
> inclusive. It is NOT anything you can exclude, even duality.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kbob42 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> It sounds like non-duality, neti neti, not this, not this...what "I am"
>> is not this, and not this...
>>
>>
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>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A common Eastern way to measure/perceive/describe Reality is to
>> use double naught adjectives.  The "Naught/notNaught" adjective is the most
>> slippery kind. It isn't this thing/concept, but it isn't not that
>> thing/concept. "Is-ness" is only understood as a paradox, and only
>> experienced by spiritual (real) channels. Every Eastern description
>> is first negated, but that negation is also negated.  The goal of that
>> spiritual path is to always question ones's perception of Reality as an
>> invitation for a higher inherent reality to emerge, almost a paradox
>> -embracing madness, Ultimate Reality.  A challenging path, to say the least.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski ([kɔˈʐɨpski]; July 3, 1879 – March 1,
>>> 1950) was a Polish-American independent scholar
>>
>>
>>
>>> He thought that certain uses of the verb "to be", called the "is
>>> of identity" and the "is of predication", were faulty in structure, e.g., a
>>> statement such as, "Elizabeth is a fool" (said of a person
>>> named "Elizabeth" who has done something that we regard as foolish).
>>> In Korzybski's system, one's assessment of Elizabeth belongs to a
>>> higher order of abstraction than Elizabeth herself. Korzybski's remedy was
>>> to deny identity; in this example, to be aware continually that "Elizabeth"
>>> is not what we call her. We find Elizabeth not in the verbal domain, the
>>> world of words, but the nonverbal domain (the two, he said, amount to
>>> different orders of abstraction). This was expressed by Korzybski's most
>>> famous premise, "the map is not the territory". Note that this premise uses
>>> the phrase "is not", a form of "to be"; this and many other examples show
>>> that he did not intend to
>>> abandon "to be" as such. In fact, he said explicitly[citation
>>> needed] that there were no structural problems with the verb "to be" when
>>> used as an auxiliary verb or when used to state existence or location.
>>> It was even acceptable at times to use the faulty forms of the verb
>>> "to be," as long as one was aware of their structural limitations.
>>>
>>
>>
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