in Which V. is mentioned. as original.

Fri Dec 4 04:17:00 CST 2015

I think it's called a hyperbole, and Mr. Pynchon is quite used to it.

2015-12-04 11:04 GMT+01:00 Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:

> I guess that's a gentle jibe but I must confess I don't quite get it. " IG
> Farben" lost me...but, as they say, if one has to explain a good joke, then
> the asker didn't get it because he's humorless.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:34 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark's clearly in the pocket of Big Pynch. It's like the IG Farben of
> literature.
> On 4 Dec 2015 8:31 pm, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> May I only suggest that, if you do get an English edition of GR, buy it
>> new not used. The writer only gets royalties on new book sales and Pynchon
>> and his family deserve his royalties for his lifelong committed genius.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 8:13 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Again, I suggest GR in English. You can get it used online for $5 plus
>> shipping. Just try it and see. It isn't "hard in mother tongue" in basic
>> ways. It is hard to synthesize as a whole, as I said earlier. But it is a
>> fun ride if you are willing to just let go and experience its pleasures,
>> much like the acid trips Pynchon clearly rode in the days of his writing GR.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2015, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> M&D!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Vitor Repinaldo
>>>
>>> Sent: Dec 3, 2015 4:57 PM
>>>
>>> To: David Morris , "pynchon-l at waste.org"
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe i'll try in English.The language spoken in Portugal has a lot of
>>> differences with the language spoken here. English is easier.  XDBut if
>>> Pynchon is already hard in my mother tongue I predict a lot of hard work in
>>> another langage.So as the books here aren't cheap I need to think twice
>>> which one I'll pick next.The ones that I can find in a more accessible
>>> price is Inherent Vice, M&D and AtD. Which is better to read after V.?
>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:27:23 -0600
>>> Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>> From: fqmorris at gmail.com
>>> To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>>>
>>> You seem fluent in English.  Translations will never retain all the
>>> nuances in a book as poetic as GR.  Maybe you should consider reading it in
>>> English.
>>> Here it is in Potugese for 26 Euros:
>>> http://www.wook.pt/ficha/arco-iris-da-gravidade/a/id/14184775
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Vitor Repinaldo <
>>> vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm from Brazil, so I'd like to read in portuguese. Here Pynchon's books
>>> are so expensives and hard to find.My edition of V that i bought these days
>>> is from 1988.One day i've found one GR in portuguese, but for R$400 (more
>>> than U$100)
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 14:34:27 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>> From: kelber at mindspring.com
>>> To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>>> CC: mark.kohut at gmail.com; kbob42 at gmail.com; jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com;
>>> richard.romeo at gmail.com; pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>
>>> You can probably order it online somewhere. Is the language Spanish?
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> Vitor Repinaldo <vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can´t find GR anywhere in my country (no longer reissued - it's a
>>> crime) and I don't know if i coud read in another language. So Vineland or
>>> M&D?
>>>
>>> > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:51:11 -0500
>>> > Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>> > From: mark.kohut at gmail.com
>>> > To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>>> > CC: kbob42 at gmail.com; jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com; richard.romeo at gmail.com;
>>> pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> >
>>> > keep going in that direction. (Unless you want the completist-so-far
>>> > feeling of all the short stories. )
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Vitor Repinaldo
>>> > <vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > I'm finishing V and i've already read Lot49, what should i pick next?
>>> > >
>>> > > ________________________________
>>> > > Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>> > > From: kbob42 at gmail.com
>>> > > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:00:29 -0500
>>> > > CC: richard.romeo at gmail.com; pynchon-l at waste.org;
>>> mark.kohut at gmail.com
>>> > > To: jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Vineland!
>>> > >
>>> > > Www.innergroovemusic.com
>>> > >
>>> > > On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Vineland Vineland Uber Alles!
>>> > >
>>> > > On Dec 3, 2015 10:02 AM, "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > all i would claim is that GR belongs to the creative thrust that
>>> began with
>>> > > V. and ended with M&D. there are some bits in AtD worthy but the
>>> rest imho
>>> > > is fairly disposable
>>> > >
>>> > > rich
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > but no matter what one thinks of some of the later books,
>>> > > Gravity's Rainbow HAS TO BE SEEN as, among much newness,
>>> > > V. perfected, no?
>>> > >
>>> > > Gravity's Rainbow is V. squared.
>>> > >
>>> > > and, didn't Pynchon avoid Parks' basic criticism by writing
>>> > > SO MANY DIFFERENT new books....
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:34 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> w/r/t to Pynchon I think there's some merit to that criticism
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> self-derivative, repetitive,
>>> > >>> in some way inferior to the first bursts of the writer's vision.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > -
>>> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
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