GR translation: but knowing more together than they ever have so far

[Mike Jing]

Well, actually this does not affect the translation much at all, since a
literal translation seems easy enough.  It's just something I was wondering
about.

Which editions do you have at hand, Mark and Perry.  The page and line
numbers I was quoting are supposed to be from the Viking edition.  My own
paperback copy is a Penguin edition published in 2006, which curiously is
missing the last line on page 139.

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did not have a copy that keyed to yours handy either and now I have
> found it.
>
> No, you are not mistaken, I am....I was queasy about the sister, not
> quite remembering how she was there
> in supposed fictional reality...so, yes, his eyes meet Enzian's.....
>
> C'mon everyone, let's all help Mike more.
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Mike Jing
> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly, but here it's the eyes of
> > Christian and Enzian that now meet, unless I'm terribly mistaken.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not too confident but I guess I have read it almost
> >> impressionistically, phenomenologically; that since they have the
> closeness
> >> of siblings and since one's dream life is a good in Pynchon, that she
> >> entered his dream with such a message of no revenge, trust and love,
> when
> >> their eyes now meet, he is not " amused" enough to accept the dream,
> she can
> >> see that, ( one way they know more together) yet he is not disagreeing,
> "
> >> challenging" and she can see that, so their combined self-awareness of
> sorta
> >> everything, but I guess each other but maybe rocket and revenge also (
> or
> >> most)
> >> I'd like to hear what another translator on the Plist thinks.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Dec 24, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't see your question posted initially. I hope someone else chimes
> in
> >> because I really don't know.  I was trying to find the section in my
> copy
> >> but our page numbers do not line up. Does this come before or after
> Byron
> >> the bulb?
> >>
> >> On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Mike Jing <
> gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does this mean they know more about the Rocket and Blicero? About each
> >>> other? Or something else?  The first seems to be the most likely.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Mike Jing
> >>> <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> V673.30-39   Christian comes past, downhill adjusting a web belt, not
> >>>> quite swaggering—night before last his sister Maria visited him in a
> dream
> >>>> to tell him she wished no revenge against anyone, and wanted him to
> trust
> >>>> and love the Nguarorerue—so their eyes now meet not quite amused nor
> quite
> >>>> yet in a challenge, but knowing more together than they ever have so
> far,
> >>>> and Christian’s hand at the moment of passing cocks out half in
> salute, half
> >>>> in celebration, aimed toward the Heath, northwesterly,
> Kingdom-of-Deathward,
> >>>> and Enzian’s goes out the same way, iya, ’kurandye! as, at some
> point, the
> >>>> two palms do slide and brush, do touch, and it is touch and trust
> enough,
> >>>> for this moment . . .
> >>>>
> >>>> what does "but knowing more together than they ever have so far“ mean
> >>>> here?
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
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