M & D Deep Duck Read. Pop quiz

[David Ewers]

V. is my favorite Thomas Pynchon book.  Maybe it's because it was the first of his big ones I'd read, but that book both took my breath away and changed my mind like no novel before or since.  I've remember getting the sense, while reading V., that Mr. Pynchon was discovering the stuff in those words as he wrote them.  Even Gravity's Rainbow felt a little more like cataloguing to me, compared to V.  So I would (very) personally say Herbert Stencil.

On Jan 5, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:

> C'mon Everyone....go a--guessing with Laura. it is fun.
> 
> Lew Archer is the detective as truth-finder in AtD. He experiences
> epiphanies, artist's truths.
> 
> I'll bloviate more if others jump in
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:08 PM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> A side question: Does Pynchon have a character that he identifies with (or whose voice he speaks through) in his other novels? Profane, Slothrop, Zoyd, Doc? Maybe Oedipa and Maxine? Harder to discern in ATD. Here, I think Cherrycoke best represents him (which is not to say that the lugubrious, paranoid mason, and the more sanguine, humorous Dixon don't reflect aspects of his personality).
>> 
>> He experiments with distancing himself from the storyteller as early as V - as Stencil relates Mondaugen's Story.
>> 
>> Laura
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Jan 5, 2015 1:54 PM
>>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Subject: Fwd: M & D Deep Duck Read. Pop quiz
>>> 
>>> A + +
>>> 
>>> Why did he not have Cherrycoke tell it all, ya think? and.... that old
>>> modernist staple [started with The Good Soldier] of
>>> ye unreliable narrator......wha?
>>> 
>>> p. 8 "stoven, dismasted, imbecile with age---an untrustworthy
>>> Remembrancer [see---all on the surface]
>>> for whom the few events yet rattling within a broken mamory must
>>> provide the only comfort no remaining to him,---
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> All I see is the Omniscient Narrator handing off to Cherrycoke here. Are you talking about the book as a whole, or just this section?
>>>> 
>>>> Cherrycoke is a stand-in for Pynchon himself, perhaps? Family outcast, paid money to keep away? Well, no. But famous reclusive, one-time writer of something labeled "obscene," long-time bachelor, no real job other than being a highly-paid (relative to most working drones) writer, now ensconced solidly within a family setting and telling a tale.
>>>> 
>>>> LK
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Jan 5, 2015 1:00 PM
>>>>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>>> Subject: M & D Deep Duck Read. Pop quiz
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who is narrating?, or should that be Who are narrating?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And what does that imply, maybe, in various ways, about the tale?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 25 words or fewer..
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