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Ah, up my alley this time (as he rounds the corner off Main street and
2nd Ave), Becky....Louis Menand, pretty terrif New Yorker guy and
ex-scholar and still writer of books, who tried real hard to fully
like Against the Day, wrote the book you want. THE METAPHYSICAL CLUB.
(He has also put together Pragmatism readers and other book
extensions).

And I have read that book. A--And I know some patchwork philosophy.
And REAL philosophy was done. C.S. Pierce, who has gone around the
Plist a few times, is a still neglected Genius and Fountainhead.
James, who got more popular---the sad story of Pierce being shut out
of academic positions, so that he could not make a living, is very
sad. That Head of Harvard to whom Henry Adams sent--or maybe even
dedicated his Education, would, when called badmouth him...so, he
wouldn't get hired...James, a nice and good guy too, DID finally get
Pierce work at Johns Hopkins for awhile...and James and Dewey did do
good work...and, needless to say, pragmatism is a LOT MORE/OTHER THAN
WHAT WORKS...as the US has narrowed it to....

See Pierce on Chance and wonder if TRP had it in mind for them Chums.

I'll risk narrowing but Pierce and Others could be said to have
created the anti-Platonic, anti-Scholastic active methodology that it
is our use---of language and so much more---that determines its/our
meanings...

There is a direct connection from another youthful
mathematician/philosopher who died way young, Paul Ramsey, to
Wittgenstein leading him to become, in his second book, the later
Wittgenstein (in his ideas), a pragmatist plus plus maybe.

Anyway

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
> Yep - that's why I typed it thusly - "(the method-"philosophy")" .  The real "Pragmatist" thinkers were more like practitioners of philosophy than actual philosophers - for the most part they established methods but not results although I'd submit that their eventual individual goals included results.  The whole movement was a side-result of the Civil War.   It might be interesting to look into the origins of Pragmatist thinking *other than* the Civil War  - not necessarily written works,  but evidence derived from the "American" experience including frontier life, the Revolutionary War, development of the Constitution and other documents, etc.  It came from somewhere - and it is SO American.
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> Bek
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>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> http://uwpress.wisc.edu/books/0541.htm
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>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> I think "Pragmatism" (the method- "philosophy") likely bears on almost any (not all)  reading of Americana.
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>>> Bekah
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>>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:05 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Just reading about Wm James last evening. It turns out "inner life" is a term he used meaningfully. The olde American functionalist / pragmatist approach certainly bears on any reading of Pynchon, whether as source or butt of the satire.
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