Fwd: PTA on Why He Made IV

[Mark Kohut]

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From: Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: PTA on Why He Made IV
To: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>


So, we differ. Much too compacted to be perfect or even very good, I
suggest, but not boring if one is trying to get Anderson's
meanings/themes.

Not you, of course, but when many tell me that This or That, book or
movie, is boring and I ask them why or give a different reading, they
have no answer....they cannot 'define' boring...I, of course, think I
can which is why I ask. So, when someone I do not know says it in a
newspaper, I doubt their judgment if I was transfixed to try to
understand it...and thought, after a couple viewings that I had.

But, differing was the other start to language, wasn't it?

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
> Sorry, but your take on The Master did never convince me. In its second half
> the movie becomes so fucking boring, and the final scene, confronting
> protagonist and counter-protagonist for the last battle, is a cheap
> imitation of the one from There Will Be Blood. There it works and even saves
> the whole movie:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqOru7imqvI
>
> "I'm finished!"
>
>
>
> On 10.01.2015 11:58, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>
>> Gonna offer this. No authentic director, trying to 'honor' the most
>> filmable work of a writer whom he admires so much, who can admit to
>> not finishing GR, is" way too far up himself now", I suggest. he may
>> not 'get it right' but most say the movie is much more Pynchon than
>> Anderson.
>>
>> I will say more forcefully: that Guardian person DOES NOT UNDERSTAND
>> The Master. And that Sandler is an unsympathetic
>> human being in PUNCH DRUNK LOVE is the fallacy of likable characters
>> AND such a word as "totally' for unsympathetic shows much less nuance
>> than Sandler does. imho. That movie has some good scenes and an
>> interesting theme all enwrapped in the same old kind of story.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09.01.2015 23:48, John Bailey wrote:
>>>
>>>> PTA: "It's like Gravity's Rainbow--I've never got through it."
>>>>
>>>> Yikes. Perhaps he isn't our most qualified screen interpreter of
>>>> Pynchon's writing.
>>>>
>>> That's what went through my mind, too, when I read this. More and more I
>>> get
>>> the impression that watching IV will be hard work and nothing I should be
>>> looking forward to ...
>>>
>>> Commenting an article from the 'Guardian' (which Dave posted here a while
>>> ago), a reader, whose view on PTA's work before IV comes very close to
>>> mine,
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> I loved Magnolia and Boogie Nights, and thought There Will Be Blood was
>>>> incredibly powerful if unsatisfying. Punch Drunk Love I hated: Sandler
>>>> is a
>>>> totally unsympathetic human being and the story was trite. The Master
>>>> had a
>>>> great two acts, then hit its head against the same damn beat for the
>>>> last 40
>>>> minutes, because it didn't know where to go. But nothing yet directed by
>>>> Anderson was as pretentious and self-indulgent as Inherent Vice, which I
>>>> actually found insulting in its smug self-admiration. So yes, I was one
>>>> of
>>>> those people who walked out in the first 15 minutes. It's a shame,
>>>> because
>>>> he's a true original, but this director is way too far up himself right
>>>> now.
>>>> <
>>>
>>> Say it ain't so!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:00 AM, Dave Monroe<against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "A phenomenally good interview. Bear with it. It's worth the full two
>>>>> hours of your time."
>>>>>
>>>>> --George Toles
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0866014/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/departments/english_film_and_theatre/faculty/toles.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Dave
>>>>> Monroe<against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.vice.com/read/inherent-vice-was-the-thomas-pynchon-book-i-could-make-into-a-movie
>>>>>
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