M & D Deep Duck Misc.

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Sat Jan 10 10:43:32 CST 2015


I wasn't aware that Melville's grandfather took active part in the Boston
Tea Party

On Saturday, January 10, 2015, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:

> Melville resounds, reverberates, thunders, rumbles, grumbles, roars,
> and tangles in ambiguities the lines of M&D. Not to mention much of
> P's greater works.
>
> Again: as the profound calm which only apparently precedes and
> prophesies of the storm, is perhaps more awful than the storm itself;
> for, indeed, the calm is but the wrapper and envelope of the storm;
> and contains it in itself, as the seemingly harmless rifle holds the
> fatal powder, and the ball, and the explosion; so the graceful repose
> of the line, as it silently serpentines about the oarsmen before being
> brought into actual play- this is a thing which carries more of true
> terror than any other aspect of this dangerous affair. But why say
> more? All men live enveloped in whale-lines. All are born with halters
> round their necks; but it is only when caught in the swift, sudden
> turn of death, that mortals realize the silent, subtle, everpresent
> perils of life. And if you be a philosopher, though seated in the
> whale-boat, you would not at heart feel one whit more of terror, than
> though seated before your evening fire with a poker, and not a
> harpoon, by your side.
>
> M-D, Ch. 60, "The Line"
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>hints, verbal whiffs
> >
> > I finished Empire of Necessity, and Benito Cerreno -- the (white) Spanish
> > "captain" whose rebellious slaves actually command the ship -- will
> > henceforward be closer in my mind to Weissmann/Blicero than ever
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I like that....did not come close to seeing it although I know The Dead
> >> twice...
> >> but I think you are right....
> >>
> >> Which is reminding me....I think TRP has lots of lit echoes, as always,
> >> but
> >> many times, as just hints, just verbal whiffs, riffing on whether than
> >> actually
> >> alluding often.
> >>
> >> I have mentioned The Tempest. See if you see the famous end of The Great
> >> Gatsby
> >> in places?....waves + beating back...or am i just projecting what is
> >> only "natural" ways of writing
> >> about such?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:04 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Yes, the entire paragraph is beautifully composed.
> >> >
> >> > Reminds of "The Dead"
> >> >
> >> > "The Snow Is General All Over Ireland"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://drmstream.com/2010/03/snow-was-general-all-over-ireland-the-last-paragraph-of-joyces-the-dead/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.arts.cornell.edu/knight_institute/publicationsprizes/discoveries/discoveriesfall1997/01louisabennion.pdf
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> p. 6...P, always observing, sez everyone-- with a lyrical phrase I
> >> >> love: "Clouds blown to Chalksmears" .
> >> >> Haven't we all seen that but not with those words?
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