M & D Deep Duck. Go East, Young Man.

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sat Jan 10 12:57:20 CST 2015


wonderful again...I violated Rule #1--did not even look it up!
Another money allusion....have we noticed how many?....this isn't
feudalism any more, it's capitalism....

I will blame my laziness on my excitement before leaving in 15 minutes
to see a movie, THE MOVIE!!!!

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
> Fwiw -
> Leadenhall Street is where Lloyd's of London (17th century)  is located.
> http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2557704
>
> Leadenhall Market is from the 14th century
> During the Middle Ages the site was owned by the Neville family, whose mansion house boasted a roof of lead, hence the name 'Leadenhall'.
>
>  "Leadenhall Street" comes up a couple more times later in the book but never anything really important, imo, although it's a wonderful way to really deepen and texturize (or whatever)  the setting.
>
> Bek
>
>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, that's what i was hoping to get such a fine min-essay about.
>> yes, I like this on his adventurous 'character'....
>>
>> A--and, the Authorities at Leadenhall Square, another of those groaner
>> names with thematic meaning,---besides making the very topical 9in
>> 1997)  Clinton-didn't-inhale joke advise him with their leaden
>> Puritanism....and notice 'madness' again, as the Rev said, the way he
>> was seen---I guess I should drop Foucault's MADNESS & CIVILIZATION
>> here because it does seem very likely
>> P is setting up a contrast between outlier/outlaw experiences (and
>> actions) as madness vs the narrowness of 'civilization'?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> Off hand I'd say that the Dutch East India Company (VOC - "East Indiaman" mentioned) was fighting a lot of wars in the area of Borneo and Cherrycoke wanted in on the action.  This was a big world even at the time - lots of things happening even if,  to Americans, the US should have been the only focus.  Cherrycoke was as much an adventure-seeking male as any, so he wanted to get in on a little action which includes "ship-board romance"  pirates, big guns, and ocean storms, etc.  Unfortunately for Cherrycoke, the Brits ordered him onto a small warship heading West.
>>>
>>> Is that what you meant?  I think there's more character insight into Cherrycoke and his love of adventure in addition to the hows and whys of his landing in the US than there is any kind of thematic allusion there. Just my o. -  There's better stuff down the page and on the next (pp 10-11, Kindle edition):
>>>
>>> "Keep away from harmful Substances, in particular Coffee, Tobacco and Indian Hemp. If you must use the latter, do not inhale. Keep your memory working, young man! Have a safe Voyage."
>>>
>>> Bekah
>>>
>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> p. 10. Cherrycoke wanted to be sent East, a traverse [NB] presented
>>>> as full of fun. Why, what's going on here in an aside TRP never had to
>>>> make, which
>>>> therefore has some kind of thematic meaning, yes?
>>>>
>>>> 'Gale-Force Assemblies"---religious enthusiasm, among other things.
>>>> -
>>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
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