M & D Deep Duck is hard

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 04:54:13 CST 2015


One might see this definition as another multi--book metaphor as TRP
'surveys' the lineage of the whole Traverse family in Vineland and
AtD.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Monte Davis <montedavis49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> And a term of art, per Wikipedia:
>
> Traverse is a method in the field of surveying to establish control
> networks. It is also used in geodesy. Traverse networks involve placing
> survey stations along a line or path of travel, and then using the
> previously surveyed points as a base for observing the next point.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you,  Elisabeth -  I used it deliberately because I think it is
>> rather rare and TRP sprinkles it through M&D.   It basically means to travel
>> across - AND!  it's the last name of some of the main characters in AtD and
>> a few in Vineland -
>>
>> Bek
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > No, you're right Mark!
>> > Also Becky, there's that word traverse again in your beautiful sentence.
>> > It comes up in the beginning of Chapter 3 of M&D. I only heard it as a name
>> > in AtD before (Webb). Didn't really know it was a word. It must mean work,
>> > right? Hard work? Like the Spanish 'trabajo'?
>> >
>> >
>> >> 10. jan. 2015 kl. 20.44 skrev Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> And we remember TRP asking why we should expect our books to be 'easy"
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Haha Mark, yeah, for sure.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bek, I think there is plenty of lines in both our paper copies though,
>> >>> right? Hehe.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Elisabeth
>> >>>
>> >>>> 10. jan. 2015 kl. 20.10 skrev Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've confessed to (sort of) the same difficulty.....(but I wasn't
>> >>>> woman enough to try that many times
>> >>>> back when it was new. Only when I had time to make it my day job (for
>> >>>> awhile, so to speak) did I finish it the
>> >>>> first time so yes, maybe, but when I did have a different relation to
>> >>>> it....I did find more humor even in the first reading than
>> >>>> what must the M &D's trek was like..?!?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Elisabeth Romberg
>> >>>> <eromberg at mac.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Not sure of the connection here, something to do with the title of
>> >>>>> the post,
>> >>>>> but bear with me... Came across this paragraph in
>> >>>>> Mason&Dixon&Pynchon by
>> >>>>> Charles Clerc:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ...prefers the more positive analogy made by Miles Harvey <<between
>> >>>>> (betwixt)
>> >>>>> the reader's progress through the book and Mason and Dixon's trek
>> >>>>> through
>> >>>>> the wilderness.>> In other words the authors prose might well be
>> >>>>> <<mimetic of
>> >>>>> Mason and Dixon's long and arduous journey.>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I had to start it 7 times first time I read M&D, my firs TP-book. It
>> >>>>> was
>> >>>>> hard.
>> >>>>> Uhm, and judging from the above quote, perhaps it was meant to be?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 10. jan. 2015 kl. 00.53 skrev Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cope tends to focus on the scientific importance of the Mason-Dixon
>> >>>>> survey as an accomplishment of Enlightenment ingenuity applied to a
>> >>>>> geographically and politically difficult problem.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Two earlier surveys failed. To get the Line right. was hard.
>> >>>>> "Enlightenment ingenuity".
>> >>>>> -
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >
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