M&D Deep Duck Soulless?

[Dave Monroe]

:"Chapter 8 shows that the view of the continuum held by scientists
from Galileo ... to Weyl ... was a step back when compared to
Aristotle's account." (Feyerabend, Farewell to Reason [2nd ed., rev.],
p. 16)

http://www.versobooks.com/books/599-farewell-to-reason

Much of the book, inc. Ch. 8, is available @ ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=-YppG0dT03AC

... @ any rate, somewhere along the line, though i believe its in
Against Method, there's an argument that, once what we now call
science, as opposed to say, society, religion, and/or (ever more and
more, albeit in a different way, these days, alas) politics, was part
and parcel of both, e.g., cosmology, which reflected/supported the
sociopolitical order,God/sun/king above and @ the center, and so forth
and so on. I THINK that's related to yr point ...

Sorry I'm not doing my former, more meticulous research/documentation,
but I actually fell asleep typing this up, woke up in time to see That
Girl on MeTV, fell asleep during The Mary Tyler Moore Show, missed
Quincy, M.E., dammit, but did catch most of The Rockford Files,
battery ran down (I got a MacBook Air cheap [CHEAP] from a friend
precisely because of that problem, didn't notice the power cord had
come unplugged), had to relocate what I could ...

... and now I gotta bunch business to catch up on, from my morning
medications (mostly antidepressants + anti anxiety pills [can you
tell?]), plus I gotta see IV again + pick up a ticket for the new
Jean-Luc Godard film in Chicago (if only I could see the entire
tribute) ...

http://www.siskelfilmcenter.org/goodbyetolanguage

http://www.siskelfilmcenter.org/godard

... a-and I hear good things about ....

http://www.siskelfilmcenter.org/agirlwalkshome

But we get it soon enough anyway, so ...

http://web.sa.uwm.edu/union/union_theatre/calendar/2015/02/27/

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> I couldn't find his example(s), not quickly, not quickly online (the
> books are all in storage), but, in essence, he later (perhaps even in
> another book, say, Farewell to Reason (1988)) points out that
> knowledge gained is also often knowledge lost, e.g., in my own (?)
> example, placing the sun @ the center of the universe (and the simply
> in one solar system thereof) displaces it from the center of the
> universe, what people "one" gives way to what people "know," with all
> the attendant sociological et al. effects.  i was hoping that could be
> derived from that quote alone, but ,,,
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> Long thread, long Feyerband bit and I'm confused. To what is Feyerband
>> making a similar point to,
>> even if roundabout?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Paul Feyerabend makes a similar point, albeit in a roundabout way,
>>> about science:
>>>
>>> "...  that a good theory explains more than its rivals is not very
>>> realistic either. True: new theories often predict new things - but
>>> almost always at the expense of things already known."
>>>
>>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/feyerabe.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.versobooks.com/books/442-against-method
>>>
>>> http://www.mcps.umn.edu/assets/pdf/4.2.1_Feyerabend.pdf
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> SALON: You point out, though, that the concept of "religion" didn't
>>>> even exist before the early modern period. What exactly are we talking
>>>> about, then, when we talk about religion and violence before modern
>>>> times?
>>>>
>>>> KAREN ARMSTRONG: First of all, there is the whole business about
>>>> religion before the modern period never having been considered a
>>>> separate activity but infusing and cohering with all other activities,
>>>> including state-building, politics and warfare.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> p. 22....Mason, from the ongoing grief of the loss of his wife, after
>>>>> suggesting to Dixon that they
>>>>> should investigate the Learned Dog for Metempsychosis reasons, at
>>>>> least p.19....after asking why are there still not
>>>>> Oracles...Gate--Ways to Futurity.....
>>>>>
>>>>> must ask tLD if he has a soul...
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say, off the top, Mason is sorta-obsessed with whether Death
>>>>> is The End or there is an After, wouldn't you? [tangential: we might
>>>>> remember the von Braun quote in GR. More heretically tangential: we
>>>>> might remember TRP's lifelong remembering of his great pal, Richard
>>>>> F.?]
>>>>>
>>>>> The doubts of a religious man. There was a time in the West when no
>>>>> (religious) person would even have such doubts. Dante's time did not,
>>>>> right Monte? and TRP fave Henry Adams said about the same of the time
>>>>> of building Mont-Saint Michel and Chartes.
>>>>>  Becker suggests that Acquinas's massive Summa came about as his and
>>>>> his time's edifice against doubt...
>>>>>
>>>>> But, doubtlessly, religious doubt at least was ushered in with the
>>>>> Enlightenment.
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