M&D Deep Duck Soulless?

Joseph Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Thu Jan 15 23:22:20 CST 2015


For Dixon it may be outlined in part as Friends vs friends.   Enlightenment is advertisement and vision, it requires friction, adjustment and counterbalance in the form of enlightenment or it becomes a lie.   
On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Morris wrote:

> As Dave Monroe put it way back then: The Enlightenment vs enlightenment.
> 
> It is a counter movement.
> 
> Rationality vs Counter-rationality.
> We vs Them, or They vs Us.
> 
> We need a We-System to counter Theirs.
> 
> The Clash of Both.
> 
> David Morris
> 
> 
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0109&msg=60225
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> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The Learned Dog tells of KOANS.....which drive one to insanity when
> > meditated on....
> > second time the word insanity is used about a mystical-like experience...
> >
> > Insanity is the social condition of mystical and religious belief in
> > the Age of Reason?, once again
> > MADNESS AND CIVILIZATION as a paradigm book.
> >
> > From the wiki article on MADNESS AND CIVILIZATION "in the Renaissance
> > the mad were portrayed in art as possessing a kind of wisdom - a
> > knowledge of the limits of our world"...
> >
> > which comes to my mind when I read The Learned Dog declare
> > emphatically he is not supernatural, there is
> > 'ever an Explanation"..
> > and from that great leg-puller, ironist of irony, it is a talking dog
> > doing the declaring.
> >
> > Samuel Johnson on a badly-walking-on-two-legs dog: "it is not that he
> > does it badly but that he does it at all'
> > [paraphrase actually, so check out for perfection]
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> p. 22....Mason, from the ongoing grief of the loss of his wife, after
> >> suggesting to Dixon that they
> >> should investigate the Learned Dog for Metempsychosis reasons, at
> >> least p.19....after asking why are there still not
> >> Oracles...Gate--Ways to Futurity.....
> >>
> >> must ask tLD if he has a soul...
> >>
> >> I would say, off the top, Mason is sorta-obsessed with whether Death
> >> is The End or there is an After, wouldn't you? [tangential: we might
> >> remember the von Braun quote in GR. More heretically tangential: we
> >> might remember TRP's lifelong remembering of his great pal, Richard
> >> F.?]
> >>
> >> The doubts of a religious man. There was a time in the West when no
> >> (religious) person would even have such doubts. Dante's time did not,
> >> right Monte? and TRP fave Henry Adams said about the same of the time
> >> of building Mont-Saint Michel and Chartes.
> >>  Becker suggests that Acquinas's massive Summa came about as his and
> >> his time's edifice against doubt...
> >>
> >> But, doubtlessly, religious doubt at least was ushered in with the
> >> Enlightenment.
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