IV @ The Oscars

Dave Monroe against.the.dave at gmail.com
Fri Jan 16 00:07:48 CST 2015


... and which SHOULD have been @ the BEGINNING of the film (it IS the
epigraph to the novel, so stay 'til AFTER "The End" for the end, foax)
...

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:04 AM, David Casseres
<david.casseres at gmail.com> wrote:
> That graffito that shows briefly after the end credits is a tip of the hat
> to TRP's abiding concern with our civilization's paving over of the natural
> world – a theme that pervades Vineland and especially M&D and ATD, and is
> present though more muted in IV the book, and hardly there at all in the
> movie, except for that little reminder for those of us OCD enough to sit in
> the goddamn theater until the lights come up,
>
> I think that theme is a lot of what makes TRP tick. Someone help me out
> about whether it figures in TCL49 and GR, please. As for Bleeding Edge, i
> just don't know.
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:53 PM, David Casseres <david.casseres at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> My wife, a true daughter of Los Angeles (went to L.A. High) who turned 20
>> in 1967, saw IV as a take on L.A. in the 50's, because of the noir, which
>> cleaves to Philip Marlowe rather than the Rockford Files. I think she has a
>> point. Or she did when she said it  – as someone who spent most of her 20's
>> in the 70's, she has a very fluid reality and by now she may have an
>> entirely different take.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> .... for the record, I went to my Ist (preview) screening w/ this guy
>>> (who actually attended w/ ME as a representative of the press, so
>>> watch this space):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20141019224910/http://www.themodernword.com/pynchon/pynchon_music_blowtorch.html
>>>
>>>
>>> http://expressmilwaukee.com/article-7964-thomas-pynchonrss-lsinherent-vicers-a-must-read.html
>>>
>>> ... though I had to break it to him that both he AND Pynchon had made
>>> inverse mistakes mistakes.  Where Eric gets the year wrong (not
>>> mention in the novel, but @ the beginning of the movie, by the way)
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://inherent-vice.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Real_Time_and_Narrative_Time_in_Inherent_Vice
>>>
>>> ... Pynchon gets Lew Alcindor's name @ the time wrong:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul-Jabbar#Milwaukee_Bucks
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kareem_Abdul-Jabbar#Religion_and_name
>>>
>>> Now to break the news to Pynchon ...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Dave Monroe
>>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > ... but NOT production (didn't this used to be art?) design?
>>> >
>>> > http://oscar.go.com/nominees
>>> >
>>> > Having seen IV today for my IVth + Vth time (I figured, I was there
>>> > anyway,, so ... though I'm gonna have to move on to Foxcatcher +
>>> > Aerican Sniper soon, maybe even Wild if I have the time, or need a
>>> > nap), I'm still noticing marginalia (and we all know how significant
>>> > that can be in a Pynchon novel) even Pynchon din't (necessarily) think
>>> > of (or, at any rate, that I don't recall/can't find in the novel).
>>> > But even the period detail for the non-Pynchon eye alone ...
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Dave Monroe
>>> > <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> http://oscar.go.com/nominees/writing-adapted-screenplay/inherent-vice
>>> >>
>>> >> http://oscar.go.com/nominees/costume-design/inherent-vice
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>>
>>
>
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