M & D Deep Duck continues.

[Mark Kohut]

I say there are, fer sure, or there is such a variety in the manifestation of
all of its effects, Pynchon wants to make sure we understand that, get
that in some
mannered but still phenomenological detail.
As remarked, Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy was published again and again in
three volumes.
If finding the prosaic nomenclature for our feelings is something that
happened in human history---
then Pynchon is modeling that in some way in M & D?

a Dutch psychiatrist, J. H Van Den Berg, in his most famous book
places the start of our 'inner self'
at around 1520, with Luther's challenge to the Church. Harold Bloom
has famously argued that
Shakespeare created (our current understanding) of the human in the
humanly insightful genius
of how work.

We can argue that---and I'm sure some will--but I am only throwing
these out as a postscript
to The Anatomy of Melancholy...i.e as a perspective on the
developmental understanding of
many of the qualities of being "human". Grief provides us--at
least--some insight?






On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can there be different forms of grief?
>
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>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:08 AM, David Ewers <dsewers at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I agree (nicely said), but I disagree.
>>
>> Two sides of the same something, seems to me.
>>
>> Grief, like fear, makes one desperate to flee oneself.
>> Pitch into the hour, so to speak...
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>>>
>>> Nicely said.
>>>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:58 PM, alice malice wrote:
>>>>
>>>> C.S Lewis may be right, but grief is not like fear to me.
>>>>
>>>> I have fear of grief. To me grief is not like fear. It is the end of
>>>> fear; there is nothing left to fear because what was feared is. Maybe
>>>> Mason, like Margaret, is not afraid, but is grieving not for what he
>>>> fears, or even for what may or may not be, but for what is surely to
>>>> be and not to be.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173665
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> p20. 'pitching into the hour, heedless"...why does Grief cause this?
>>>>> "No one ever told me that grief felt so like fear."---C.S. Lewis.
>>>>> TRP even has Dixon share, therefore understand by identifying with,
>>>>> this feeling.
>>>>>
>>>>> a lot of anatomy of grief, melancholy, etc. going on from the get-go.
>>>>> Dense web of feelings.
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