M&D Deep Duck 4-6: Equator

Fri Jan 23 07:04:31 CST 2015

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any odd or fanciful object or thing; a gimcrack. 2. whim-whams,
Informal. nervousness; jitters: He had the whim-whams after the
accident.

Is Rutabageous Anemia really a pynchon joke meaning 'Can't get blood
out of a turnip" as the wiki suggests?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ethelmer gets money from weapons-dealer Uncle LeSpark (just got the name, d'oh)
> just as --Kit in AtD got it from Vibe?
>
> Ethelmer, already able to exploit with the ladies his lost but
> projected innocence.
> This is who Tenebrae crushes on. When he sez (on p. 30) he 'should have prayed'
> Tenebrae is 'astonished'---astonished that he hadn't?
> He goes on to say that they are surrounded by the pious, who want
> nothing to upset them
> ---but she already feels her Blood racing...
>
> Another woman attracted, involuntarily, to a 'bad boy'?
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> p. 31. Ethelmer sez "'Ev'ryone 'knows'".....and whenever I hear that
>> line I think of the Leonard Cohen song:
>>
>>
>>
>> Everybody knows - Leonard Cohen - YouTube
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg
>>
>>
>> LEONARD COHEN LYRICS - Everybody Knows - A-Z Lyrics
>>
>> www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/leonardcohen/everybodyknows.html
>>
>> Lyrics to "Everybody Knows" song by LEONARD COHEN: Everybody knows
>> that the dice are loaded Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
>> Everybody know.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Mark Wright <washoepete at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>> The practice acknowledged the ancient reality/custom/conceit that officers
>>> were serving honorably as gentlemen of property--"The Aristocrats!"--and not
>>> as paid labor. They drew their authority from God through the regnant person
>>> of king or queen, and discharged lethal justice on the paid men in name of
>>> God King and Country. That they were not paid gave them more "moral" right,
>>> too, in a share of valuable seizures held in trust for the monarch.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 22, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> p. 32.Hey, I've been trying in the easy online way to learn
>>>> if---how---why Captains in the Royal Navy had to pay for their
>>>> own victualing. Anyone, Anyone, Blinky, Blinky?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > NP just Misc.
>>>> >
>>>> > "and to this day, ask her what the Equator was, and she did not
>>>> > know"---Mrs. Dalloway, p.122
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:41 PM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Found this paper (no notes or bibliography attached, so take its claims
>>>> >> with a grain of salt):
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  Medieval Western maps represented the east at
>>>> >> the top because it was seen as the allegorical direction in which
>>>> >> Jerusalem lay (the rising
>>>> >> sun as locus of the "Son of God": pun intended). Ancient Chinese maps
>>>> >> showed the south at the
>>>> >> top, ostensibly because the map represented the Empire as seen from the
>>>> >> perspective
>>>> >> of the Emperor, who was seated in the north facing south. It is not
>>>> >> clear just when
>>>> >> Chinese maps adopted the convention of north-at-the-top. The
>>>> >> China-centered world
>>>> >> map Matteo Ricci introduced to the Chinese mandarins around 1600
>>>> >> depicted the north
>>>> >> at the top, but its influence is hard to assess.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.ucis.pitt.edu/ncta/pdfiles/MappingEthnocentrismexcerpt.pdf
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And, for the record, we NYC snobs wouldn't describe Ohio as "Out West."
>>>> >> It's strictly in the "fly-by zone." Definitely, the excluded middle!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Laura
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> But not everyone has the same idioms we do.  Maine is known as Down
>>>> >>>>> East.   "Mix up" or "mix it up"  is a totally English idiom - try
>>>> >>>>> translating it into Spanish - lol - the "up" is not translatable.  WE use
>>>> >>>>> the word "up" for lots of things - "look it up," for instance "look it up in
>>>> >>>>> the dictionary."  Why "up."
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> In California the rest of the US is all "Back East" - in New York
>>>> >>>>> I'd imagine Ohio to be "Out West."  It Texas it's all known as "Up North."
>>>> >>>>> In Fargo it's all "Down South."
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Merriam Webster:  in or into a more northerly location; especially
>>>> >>>>> :  in or into the part of the U.S. that lies north of the Mason-Dixon Line
>>>> >>>>> and the Ohio River <He was educated in the South, but trained .>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Bek
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I have had these same questions about up and down but failed to
>>>> >>>>>> look hard enough to have any definitive answer. The erotic aspect makes some
>>>> >>>>>> kind of weird sense just because so much instinctively comes from our body.
>>>> >>>>>> Body language.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> There is also that up (mountains)  equals colder. And for the major
>>>> >>>>>> civilizations north is cold and south is warm.  This seems the most likely
>>>> >>>>>> explanation to me of how this connection entered the language.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> In the iconography of medieval cathedrals, derived to a large
>>>> >>>>>> degree from biblical passages  about direction, north is equated with
>>>> >>>>>> judgement and the cross and south with resurrection and regeneration( Jesse
>>>> >>>>>> tree geneology windows). South also has biblical association with gold,
>>>> >>>>>> spices, and the erotic other. So south to a Biblical people should not  be
>>>> >>>>>> inherently negative. But then there is also the whole question of Ham.
>>>> >>>>>> There is nothing in the bible indicating Ham's curse was black skin but the
>>>> >>>>>> theory is widespread and may even be somewhere in the Talmudic texts.
>>>> >>>>>> According to theTorah Moses second wife was Ethiopian, but Ethiopian jews
>>>> >>>>>> have lower status in modern Israel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 3:09 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> A boundary ordained by the stars, by Mother Earth (slightly tubby
>>>> >>>>>>> in the waistline, despite - because of! - all that spinning). It's a border,
>>>> >>>>>>> but no war has ever been fought over it (though, certainly, many have been
>>>> >>>>>>> fought across it).
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> But implicit in it are some of the things Joseph and others have
>>>> >>>>>>> been discussing: colonialism and slavery, in particular -- the general
>>>> >>>>>>> European colonialist attitude towards the darker people who lived "down"
>>>> >>>>>>> there as somewhat lesser, for living at the "bottom" rather than the "top."
>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a homoerotic metaphor here? The mapmakers make the decisions, but
>>>> >>>>>>> when did it become ingrained in the popular consciousness that South = Down?
>>>> >>>>>>> John Bailey, chime in, please: Isn't it specifically white Australians who
>>>> >>>>>>> decided to get defensively cute in bragging about living Down Under - to
>>>> >>>>>>> lure tourists across the equator?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> It's odd, in a way, that the European colonialists who imposed
>>>> >>>>>>> borders on the indigenous peoples of Africa and South America never thought
>>>> >>>>>>> to use the Equator as an official national border. A nice straight line, but
>>>> >>>>>>> no Masons or Dixons up to the task of hacking through such remote wilderness
>>>> >>>>>>> to draw it. Still, you'd think they could at least pick a spot and call it
>>>> >>>>>>> the Equator. Who was going to argue with them if it was a couple of
>>>> >>>>>>> kilometers off?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, here's a list of the countries the Equator passes
>>>> >>>>>>> through: Ecuador [Equator - someone at least took note!], Colombia, Brazil,
>>>> >>>>>>> Sao Tome & Principe, Gabon, Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of
>>>> >>>>>>> the Congo, Uganda, Kenya, Somalia, Maldives, Indonesia and Kiribati. Note
>>>> >>>>>>> that Equatorial Guinea is not among them.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Ecuador actually has a tourist spot with an official line drawn to
>>>> >>>>>>> show where the Equator is. Only problem is, it's off by a few hundred feet.
>>>> >>>>>>> No one cares, but M&D would be appalled.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/much-ado-about-nothing-at-the-equator-8514125/?no-ist
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Laura
>>>> >>>>>>>
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