GR translation: trains full of their own hanging off the cars that lumber overhead

[Mike Jing]

That was my understanding as well, and it seems to make the most sense to
me.  Thanks, Jochen.  Sorry for my own very late reply.  Your help is
always much appreciated.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:10 AM, jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry for being so late, I was 10 days away from home and my books, but: I
> think this very long paragraph serves as a kind of
> Völkerwanderungs-Panopticon – David's amalgam, not in different historic
> modes, but at the end of WWII, Slothrop's synopsis – and there it is quite
> possible that on the Autobahns are caravans with Gypsies, drawn by horses,
> while overhead trains with Gypsies are passing, on a viaduct, railway
> bridge, sort of thing.
>
> 2015-01-15 6:42 GMT+01:00 Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>:
>
>> I have indeed considered that.  Then what exactly are "the cars that
>> lumber overhead"? (and overhead relative to what?)  Are they caravan wagons
>> or actual automobiles?  In fact, are we talking about actual Gypsies here,
>> or is it metaphorical?
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:12 PM, James Kyllo <jkyllo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes, these are trains in the sense that predates the railway (wagon
>>> trains, camel trains &c)
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:08 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this imagery is a amalgam of many historic modes of egress from
>>>> war zones. All of these people are fleeing in whatever mode is available in
>>>> their own times. So, no, there are no train tracks above the Autobahn.
>>>>
>>>> David Morris
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Mike Jing <gravitys.rainbow.cn at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> V549.36-550.3   . . . caravans of Gypsies, axles or linchpins failing,
>>>>> horses dying, families leaving the vehicles beside the roads for others to
>>>>> come live in a night, a day, over the white hot Autobahns, trains full of
>>>>> their own hanging off the cars that lumber overhead, squeezing aside for
>>>>> army convoys when they come through, . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> So the Gypsy caravans are on the Autobahn, there are train tracks
>>>>> running above the Autobahn, and the caravans have to squeeze aside when
>>>>> army convoys come through.  Is this the correct picture here, or did I
>>>>> misunderstand completely?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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