Feeding the psychedelic database

[Kai Frederik Lorentzen]

On 25.01.2015 08:17, Matthew Taylor wrote:

> I like the database idea.
>
> In my own psychedelic adventures, I have found it fascinating to note 
> when, where, and with whom I have an experience that feels truly 
> "shared" and engaging on an interpersonal level,

Second Acid, summer 1983, we were three 16 years old kids, two boys and 
a girl, and that old hippie had sold us the white micros with the words: 
"These are really strong, you shouldn't take more than a quarter each." 
Now, of course each of us  took a whole pill. My parents weren't home, 
so we had the house for the weekend. Although we all had taken 
psychedelics before - Magic Mushrooms plus, in my case, an Acid blotter 
with ET on it a couple of weeks before at the Roskilde music festival 
near Copenhagen - this was in its intensity new and here, besides the 
large dosage (we were fourteen hours completely spaced out and the 
afterglow - I redesigned my room and clothes completely - went on for 
weeks),  the sharing on the interpersonal level was the decisive factor. 
The thing about it which made it feel so very shared is that we could 
talk without talking.  l It was the only time in my life that I 
experienced telepathy for a longer time /and among three persons/. The 
understanding was perfect as words could never be ... During later trips 
on LSD and Psilocybin (never had the occasion to do Mescaline or DMT) I 
often made the journey all on my own, sometimes dedicated to a 
particular spiritual date. Like five grams of cubensis on a stormy Holy 
Friday.  Actually I think that the interpersonal  aspect is more 
important when you're doing MDMA ("the love drug"). The immediate social 
implications of actual psychedelics - "one begins to read between the 
pages of a look," as Jefferson Airplane had it - are nevertheless 
immense. People in the 1960s, or so it appears to me, were just mixing 
up the societal micro and macro level and so they thought that they "can 
really change the whole thing." Which they of course couldn't.

Weren't days great when we were young?


> as opposed to the times where it seems instead that my tripping 
> partner and I are having completely divergent effects and struggling 
> to find a common ground.
>
> The latter reminds me of an experience I had in my teenage years, when 
> I met a French traveller in the Eastern Sierra mountains where I grew 
> up. He came upon me smoking a joint, which we shared. I spoke 
> absolutely no French and he had no English (he was traveling with a 
> group that had a translator and hadn't mastered any more than the most 
> basic of phrases himself.) We discovered that our common ground was 
> our equally poor Spanish...native to neither of us, both fumbling 
> through unfamiliar linguistic territory, communication growing 
> increasingly muddled as the joint burned away.
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net 
> <mailto:brook7 at sover.net>> wrote:
>
>     I feel it would be a worthwhile to collect a large database of
>     honest recollection and rumination on the psychedelic experience
>     and would love to participate in such. Properly edited, it could
>     tell us both about the range of effects  these substances can have
>     and  really the nature and range of a large spectrum of
>     consciousness usually consigned to oversimplification.  Artificial
>     seems like a loaded word, fairly clear regarding a difficult to
>     synthesize chemical compound , but what about the natural
>     psychedelics?
>

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com 
<mailto:joeallonby at gmail.com>> wrote:
 > I was always relieved when it was over.
 >
 >
 > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com 
<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
 > It wasn't all fun. Sometimes it wa terrifying,
 >
 >
 > On Friday, January 23, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com 
<mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
 > BTW,
 > My trips on real acid back in 1970 were at the age of 14.

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