M&D Deep Duck 4-6: Yet another reason M&D starts at sea

Mark Kohut mark.kohut at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 18:44:44 CST 2015


pp 44-45.." 'Terrible, well, as to 'Terrible'..." And what they cannot
speak, some of it not yet, some of it never,  resumes breathless
Sovereignty in the wax-lit Rooms.

Death......in the equivalent of the Drawing Rooms....

Cf. "whereof what one cannot speak, one must pass over in
silence"---Wittgenstein (Although he meant something different than
Death, which 'was not an event in life", he said.)
And Mrs. Dalloway.....how dare they talk about death at my party--paraphrase.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
> On 28.01.2015 19:28, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> Pynchon's navy experience was obviously a formative one, given how much
>> ships are used as plot devices, or at least referenced, in his books. So
>> many ripe connections and metaphors. Or is it all about Moby Dick, Alice?
>>
>> Ships in his other books (please add to this list!):
>>
>> V: Profane's a Navy man, and there are multiple shipboard scenes.
>>
>> COL49: Mike Fallopian's recounting of a naval encounter between Russian
>> and American ships. More on this from Martin Eve:
>>
>>
>> http://www.academia.edu/1037657/Historical_Sources_for_Pynchons_Peter_Pinguid_Society
>> GR: Well, the Anubis, of course, and the hijacked U-boat, the toilet ship.
>>
>
> Then there's the vessel of Frau Gnahb:
>
> "'please, mother,' silent otto plaintive in the window of the pilot house.
> in reply the good woman commences bellowing a bloodthirsty ~ sea chanty ~
> i'm the pirate queen of the baltic run, and nobody fucks ~ with me--- ~ and
> those who've tried are bones and skulls, and lie beneath ~ the sea. ~ and
> the little fish like messengers swim in and out their eyes, ~ singing, 'fuck
> ye not with gory gnahb and her desperate ~ enterprise!' ~ i'll tangle with a
> battleship, i'll massacre a sloop, ~ i've sent a hundred souls to hell in
> one relentless swoop--- ~ i've seen the flying dutchman, and each time we
> pass, he cries, ~ 'oh, steer me clear of gory gnahb, and her desperate ~
> enterprise!' ~ whereupon she grips her wheel and accelerates." (pp. 497-498)
> ~~~ [copied this from the archives, I have no idea why I didn't use caps
> back then.]
>
> Regarding the name Gnahb, Steven Weisenburger notes that it is "a backward
> spelling of 'bhang'" (Hindu term for marijuana), --- I do hear echoes of the
> name Ahab, too.
>
>
>> Vineland: Well, not much other than a reference to Zoyd working a cruise
>> gig for Kahuna Airlines.
>>
>> ATD: The SS Stupendica sequence, and the Airship.
>>
>> IV: the Golden Fang
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> BE: If I remember, there's a little scene on a ferry boat.
>>
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