We were all right....Mason & Dixon

[David Casseres]

I'd be up for an IV group watch. One of these days the media whiz kids on
the intertubes will make it possible for us to do that, all over the globe
watching in unison.

Meanwhile, I'm on my second read of Moby-Dick, my first having been about
1971 or so. Speaking of the poetry on the page, and the way we each read
our own Moby-Dick or Mason & DIxon, I am keeping sort of a Moby-Dick
Journal and one of these days I will figure out the technology of sharing
it.

"...we gave three heavy-hearted cheers, and blindly plunged like fate into
the lone Atlantic."

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I blame myself.  I was simply in no condition to participate on a
> regular basis @ the time.
>
> Meanwhile, some day, the Inherent Vice group watch?
>
> http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/awards2014/pdf/iv.pdf
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> > When enough are not newly reading and responding, the silence is loud.
> > And one needs to be following the bouncing ball
> > when one posts who is, otherwise it is not new.
> >
> > Too many too busy or otherwise out of the Group Read. Life in late
> > capitalism ain't easy.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, David Ewers <dsewers at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe you're on to something with why the group read fizzled, Mark
> T.,
> >> although I think we had it going pretty good for a while there.  I'm not
> >> sure it's impossible to maintain that managed flow-through you
> describe, but
> >> (speaking for myself) it does seem to require some obsessing to do the
> >> discussion justice.  It's tough to be obsessed for several months
> straight.
> >> Maybe we should have built some time-outs into the schedule?
> >>
> >> Out of curiosity, is anyone still giving M-&D- the deep reading
> treatment?
> >> If so, where are you?
> >> I've slowed down a lot in my M-&D- reading, lightened up some, picked up
> >> other books, etc., but I've got notes up to chapter 35.
> >>
> >> I hope everyone (in the Northern Hemisphere...) is having a bitchin'
> summer!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 19, 2015, at 11:44 AM have a nice day, violet wrote this
> message:),
> >> Mark Thibodeau wrote:
> >>
> >> I think the reason why group reads of Pynchon tend to break down (and I
> say
> >> this with a guilty conscience at my own part in the unraveling of the
> last
> >> M&D group read attempt) is that his work is SO RICH and full of
> constant,
> >> almost fractal levels of allusion and multi-contextual referencing
> (moreso
> >> perhaps than any writer aside from Joyce) that trying to maintain some
> kind
> >> of managed flow-through is literally impossible to do.
> >>
> >> Any reader takes from a work of art only that which he or she is
> capable of
> >> taking. We all bring our own personal contexts into some kind of
> >> intermeshing with the context of the work that we're approaching.
> Someone
> >> steeped in pre-Revolutionary American history will have a different
> reading
> >> experience from someone who knows a lot about, say, the history of
> science.
> >> Both will find it a masterwork, but for different reasons.
> >>
> >> For that reason, I think Pynchon slots in with those writers who are
> both
> >> difficult AND rewarding.
> >>
> >> MT
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Misc.
> >>>
> >>> just read an interesting essay by Stanley Greenblatt, Shakespeare and
> >>> Beyond
> >>> Scholar---this essay is on Milton, however---that applies to many a
> great
> >>> writer
> >>> including our writer from Long Island.......
> >>>
> >>> Thesis: The depth of full scholarship analysis of such as Milton, say
> >>> another
> >>> long book on all the subtleties and breadth and depth of his politics
> >>> explored thru
> >>> his major poems......tends to kill why he is great.....
> >>>
> >>> The poetry on the page.
> >>>
> >>> Discuss.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > is an incredible book....
> >>> >
> >>> > Throw out more stuff about....
> >>> -
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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